client side js is not remotely analogous to carbon emissions good grief
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also didn't he found one of the original huge JS frameworks
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we need to move on from this brow beating shaming mode of discourse in the style of crockford and ppk
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Hi! Hello. I did found the Dojo project, back in 2004, when computers were things you plugged into walls. Things changed. Re: Dojo, we worked hard to keep sizes small, building some of the first "code splitting" tools available and providing multiple "profiles" to attack bloat.
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`dojo.js` was a sticking point; heavy debate about "in" vs. "out" modules. We got a "core" build down to 26KiB (in a desktop centric world) and sweated everything we included. Library was built so you could configure a custom build (the recommendation) with *just* what you needed
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When mobile started to show up ('07), I started thinking about how we could trim out the desktop-centric cruft and remove things we didn't need. The result was a "mobile" build:https://www.sitepen.com/blog/dojo-in-6k/ …
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