In the meantime, how many of these new features are going to be presented as a fait accompli, like MDV etc were, only to be yanked away again later? Platform fatigue is real.
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Replying to @Rich_Harris @graynorton and
MDV wasn't s fait-accomplis and anyone who says so is lying to you.
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Replying to @slightlylate @Rich_Harris and
I was co-TL of the project (Parkour) that developed it alongside features like ES6 classes, async/await, shorter function syntax, many CSS proposals, etc. etc. MDV was demo'd and the feedback was "that's cool, but you should try to break it up"...so we did
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Replying to @slightlylate @Rich_Harris and
As a result, we collaborated widely to design features like Mutation Observers (joint design with Mozilla) and Object.observe() (to get the same semantics for the JS-side of the tree).
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Replying to @slightlylate @graynorton and
Not my recollection of the marketing at the time, but let's go with a more recent example — show me where on this page it says 'no non-Chromium browser supports this, and there's lots of active discussion about the API'https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2019/02/constructable-stylesheets …
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Replying to @Rich_Harris @graynorton and
The page you're looking for is here: https://chromestatus.com/feature/5394843094220800 …
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Replying to @slightlylate @graynorton and
Not putting that information front and center in the marketing for the feature is somewhat disingenuous, don't you agree?
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Replying to @Rich_Harris @graynorton and
"Disingenuous" doesn't pass Hanlon's Razor.
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Replying to @slightlylate @Rich_Harris and
Presuming poor intent gets us nowhere and I don't know who it helps. Maybe folks who don't want the platform to encroach "their" space? Having been a library author, I find that hard to imagine either. The whole system, when it works, is enabled by the presumption of goodwill.
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Replying to @slightlylate @graynorton and
I'm not ascribing poor intent. More like impatience and over-confidence. And not towards individuals, but to the system in which they operate
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Let's flip the question around: how long is too long to hold a feature?
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Replying to @slightlylate @graynorton and
depends whether its absence is preventing developers from doing their jobs
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Replying to @Rich_Harris @slightlylate and
I appreciate the passion, but that's a pretty bad definition. I've actually heard a similar one by browser vendors as they point to the fact that webdevs can do it but those solutions at times have unfortunate end user implications (not saying that is true for SD specifically)...
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