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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Rich Harris‏Verified account @Rich_Harris 8 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @gavindoughtie @w3ctag

      But the big question here is this: why are *browser vendors* in charge of web standards, as opposed to a faction within a larger group of stakeholders (a la TC39, though ideally without the same financial commitments) that can advise on implementation pitfalls?

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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @Rich_Harris @gavindoughtie @w3ctag

      I wrote a blog post series on some of this: https://infrequently.org/2018/06/effective-standards-work-part-1-the-lay-of-the-land/ … https://infrequently.org/2018/06/effective-standards-work-part-2-threading-the-needle/ … TL;DR: feature development and standardisation are separate-but-related processes, and the folks who ship the bits take the risks.

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    3. Larry Masinter‏ @masinter 8 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @Rich_Harris and

      Your blog posts and the threads have the role of standards organizations upside down. SDOs and their working groups should REVIEW proposed design changes, by the widest possible review committee. Ship first process disenfranchises. Review takes time and attention.

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @masinter @Rich_Harris and

      You presume I have a single step gearing in mind, rather than frantic iteration (including wide review). That's an error not contained in the text.

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @masinter and

      This misconception is falsified by my role in putting @w3ctag review in the center of the Blink launch process. You can persuasively argue many faults of my character, but suggesting disbelief in the value of wide review is among them is unlikely to come up aces.

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    6. Larry Masinter‏ @masinter 9 Oct 2019
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      no character fault was implied, stick to the ideas. It's great that you have some review early in the Blink launch process, but @w3ctag is of necessity not always representative of the affected community....

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    7. Larry Masinter‏ @masinter 9 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @masinter @slightlylate and

      What is the launch process for a new feature from someone else, when do you provide feedback to other vendors on their proposals?

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    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 9 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @masinter @Rich_Harris and

      "From someone else" == "for features proposed/implemented first in other engines"? Or do you mean "from contributors other than Google within the Chromium project"?

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    9. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 9 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @masinter and

      If the question is the first, we try to engage when asked about proposals in important areas. Relatively few of these from other vendors are done via a similar incubation processes (which is a point of contention), so we'll usually get a whiff of them at WG's...which is a problem

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    10. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 9 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @masinter and

      In those cases, we'd hope other engine projects would send their proposals to similar review (e.g., via the TAG). But they don't 🤷‍♂️ A part of the disconnect is that we're more interested in developer feedback and sentiment than formal WG approval. WG's aren't fitness functions.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 9 Oct 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @masinter and

      Some WG's exhibit a really weird survivorship bias: they were themselves formed from successful features that were initially designed and launched *outside* the formal process, but now expect everyone to do all new work in an environment they didn't start in...which is 🤔🤔🤔

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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 9 Oct 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @masinter and

          On feedback from other's proposals, Mozilla's positions repo is an interesting way of handling this sort of review flow. We have thought about something similar. Frustrating that Chromium is so far ahead on features that we tend to be the ones pushing most new work = (

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        3. Larry Masinter‏ @masinter 9 Oct 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @Rich_Harris and

          What I'm trying to question is why having the most new features means you're the farthest ahead. When the web platform was new and not very expressive, maybe, but these days shouldn't development processes focus on security, privacy, performance, consistency over features?

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