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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 7 Oct 2019
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      Alex Russell Retweeted Fronteers Conference

      The data I shared in this talk keeps me up at night. The web is going gangbusters on desktop -- but it's dying, *actually dying*, on mobile, where users now live. Why? Sites built for desktop shoehorn'd into phones & policies that undermine browser choice + web competitiveness.https://twitter.com/FronteersConf/status/1181295096752492550 …

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      Fronteers Conference @FronteersConf
      What would our content be like if we shrunk everything to meet the constraints of mobile? @slightlylate closes the conference with some food for thought #fronteers https://www.flickr.com/photos/fronteers/48855675456/in/album-72157711225444973/ …
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    2. Ronald Diemicke‏ @RonaldDiemicke 8 Oct 2019
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      So I've seen the thread on this - but I feel like maybe this isn't as dire as you're making it out to be. I think maybe you need to recognize some bias here. Google is trying to push things forward with Android and Chrome - both things it controls. The best thing you can do...

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    3. Ronald Diemicke‏ @RonaldDiemicke 8 Oct 2019
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      is continue to innovate in the spaces you control. If you build it, users will either see the value in Chrome/Android and the web OR they won't. Both Google and Apple having prominent app stores are disincentivized from having the web be competitive in a way...

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    4. Ronald Diemicke‏ @RonaldDiemicke 8 Oct 2019
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      that ignores those storefronts. I'm glad Google is taking steps forward. But saying that 'mobile web is dying' sounds like hyperbole from someone who wants something and isn't getting it. The analogy with IE isn't even accurate. IE was fundamentally broken in security ...

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    5. Ronald Diemicke‏ @RonaldDiemicke 8 Oct 2019
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      contexts and lacking in basic features everyone has adopted enmass. Not to mention was far slower to update. There will always be someone 'like IE' because there is unlikely to be any company that can move as fast as Google in this space. Google is also incentivized to want...

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    6. Ronald Diemicke‏ @RonaldDiemicke 8 Oct 2019
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      the web to do well due to their participation in the ad space. Apple has no such incentive. So - ultimately, Google can improve the web by creating great competition. The best thing you might actually be able to do is remove Chrome from iOS completely.

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    7. Ronald Diemicke‏ @RonaldDiemicke 8 Oct 2019
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      At that point, you'd force folks to 'pick' - do you want an iPhone with Safari or an Android phone with Chrome - you only get one. As it is, you're somewhat existing in a 'Frankenbrowser' state (like you put) with Chrome not ACTUALLY having feature parity with Chrome elsewhere.

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    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 Oct 2019
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      First, you've asserted without evidence (vs. the evidence I presented about time-spent data and trends) in the talk that it's not as dire as I suggest. Hitchens' Razor can be a real bear.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 Oct 2019
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      Past that, you might imagine that we (along with Opera, Mozilla, and all the other browser vendors who ship iOS browsers) are smart enough to have thought of this...and it's complicated.

      10:40 AM - 8 Oct 2019
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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 8 Oct 2019
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          But none of that excuses Apple suppressing choice and capping how good the web can be through low investment. I support voting with your wallet, of course, but it's not a workable fix to structural prejudice against the web.

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        3. Ronald Diemicke‏ @RonaldDiemicke 8 Oct 2019
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          So - if that's the problem - what's the solution? You can't *force* Apple to do anything - unless you can make it make business sense (hence forcing people to vote with their wallets) to force them to change, there's no leverage.

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