Asked an entire room full of webdevs yesterday if any of them knew that FF/Chrome/Opera/Brave/etc. for iOS weren't allowed to compete on engine quality. Zero hands up.
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The soft bigotry of low expectations ensues. The mobile web can't succeed when Apple is allowed to stack the rules against it.
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Apple undermining the future of the web is a scandal with echoes of FB's IAB shenanigans. The common thread is hiding bad engines behind UI that *suggests* that everything is on the level. It's expectation arbitrage, and the future of web is what's being shorted.
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I agree with all of this but have to say that Apple has made the web able to reach parity with native in terms of performance. In a way that has given the web a huge lifeline. We see this every day with just how capable iOS is for performant web apps compared to Android
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If it wasn’t for that, Ionic wouldn’t work, and that would mean (millions?) of fewer web apps in the App Store. That would suck
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This isn't to say that Safari/WebKit engineering isn't good. I've had the pleasure of meeting some of them and they are good people who build a good product.
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Pound for pound, I'd happily suggest they're the best in the world! I have nothing against the fine folks on that team. This is a set of decisions made by folks far above line engineering and mgmt.
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Such an important statement: "Business decision makers don't think the web can deliver the experiences they want to give users because, on iOS (which they use), it can't."
Thanks. Twitter will use this to make your timeline better. UndoUndo
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I know im rich, but I would rather have a little jank, then have my location tracked 24/7, and my views auctioned to the highest bidder, build from a personalised profile. But thats how we differ..
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As a web developer I don't want my work being hobbled by one company's arbitrary decisions of implementation whether that company's Microsoft, Google or Apple. This is the equivalent of having to code to IE6 compatibility.
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IDK. Seems pretty OK to me, from the user’s perspective. Sometimes http://YouTube.com doesn’t play my video and I have to reload the page. (At least it’s ad-free.) Sometimes https://Twitter.com doesn’t load a tweet that is linked to. Not sure either is Apple’s fault.
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