I trust that the Chrome engineering team has more data on this than I do but I can't help but feel there is a breakdown in the user agent ecosystem when I'm blindsided by features with non-trivial externalities
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Replying to @fugueish @slightlylate
The risk is that every time every time you add incentives to use SMS auth, you increase the friction of SMS auth deprecation
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There is a marginal reduction of risk on a short timescale, but there is a marginal change in lifetime of risk on a long timescale. Whether that change is a net positive introduction of risk is something I don't have the data to answer but it's something that warrants discussion
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Point taken on the intent to experiment, but in my experience this means "we are going ahead with implementing this and we are just working out the finer points"
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I *do* expect this to end up in production, thanks to the diligence of the team, but we did no go this route lightly. We are the first to worry about telco/opco identity provision.
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Regardless, identity in markets we care deeply about -- India, specifically, but others with many first-internet-users as well -- has swung *hard* to SMS OTP over the past 3-5 years. Many (most?) users in these markets don't have an email addr they know or care about.
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The consequence is asymmetric: the web can continue to withhold this capability (even in a form that can be an on-ramp to something better, as I believe this design is) or it can try to get to a competitive place that lows teams to bet on the web for the long haul.
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Not having this is a frequently cited reason that both sign-up and transaction conversion rates suffer on the web vs. native. Given what I'm seeing about web/native usage, the counterfactual has to include "...and that's how the web died on mobile..."
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So we're weighing up the risks here and saying "an imperfect web is still worth saving". I have tons of time for the dissenting view, but it was market reality that swung us -- maybe just not *your* market.
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And if we get the web to a place where it's handling *most* client-side computing on mobile moves to the web, we'll have the ability to move folks to a better place. Holding out for the perfect hasn't worked this far, so at one level it's at *least* worth trying the alternative.
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