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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      The distinction here is important. I keep coming back to package management in Go. It’s not that Google engineers don’t acknowledge its a problem, it’s that they just *don’t have that problem themselves* and that shapes how they approach resolving it.

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    2. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      What this means is, without a participatory governance structure, you can’t expect projects to resolve issues the people in power don’t have. Yelling at them is never effective, because they aren’t *actively* against your concerns.

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    3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 7 Aug 2019
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      Replying to @mikeal

      See also: web performance and React

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    4. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      I mean, there’s an example in every project of a certain size. Node.js blocked LTTNG tracing for Linux because... we already had DTrace and Joyent had a way to use that to trace their Linux VMs. One of the first features io.js shipped with was LTTNG support :)

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    5. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      The solution wasn’t to convince Joyent that LTTNG support was worth their time to review, it was to move to a participatory governance structure where people were empowered to resolve the issues they care about.

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    6. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      as far a React goes, I’m just out of patience for everyone in these arguments. if you aren’t Facebook, don’t use React if you have non-Facebook problems — they’ve made it clear how that project runs and what the priorities are.

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    7. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 7 Aug 2019
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      I wish this were visible to more people. Nearly nobody looks long or hard enough to grok these dynamics.

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    8. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      Modern startups have a very odd relationship with open source. Their businesses depend on it more than software they purchase and they expect a service guarantee (which doesn’t exist) that matches their need rather than their investment (which is $0)

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    9. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 7 Aug 2019
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      Even worse. Startups are allowing themselves to be constrained by the open source dependencies they are beholden too. It is costing us a lot, but we've collectively decided to chalk it up and expend energy elsewhere.

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    10. Marco Rogers‏ @polotek 7 Aug 2019
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      I was talking to some friends about this recently. Instead of fixing problems with current projects, engineers are incentivized to find a whole other solution and just take the pain of swapping it out. Essentially it's searching for an acceptable set of externalities.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 7 Aug 2019
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      Rewrite is the path to blog-post/promo/RSUs, and doing it in a way that aligns you with "industry practice" sure helps your terrified and afraid managers/recruiters "compete for the best talent" The echo chamber runs on sovereign wealth fund cash.

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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 7 Aug 2019
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          (which is not to take anything away from the value of standards, but choices about compiled-down interfaces w/ one impl aren't standards)

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 7 Aug 2019
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          I'd love it if this pathway also had a factor for user benefit weighting...some sort of peer review to do more than tribally self-congratulate.

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        2. Bryan English‏ @bengl 7 Aug 2019
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          This is evidenced by all the "how we switched from X to Y" at literally every conference.

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        3. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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          We also had this whole cycle in the Rails with server side rendering being the solution to performance, then the browser added some features and perf improvements and we cycled out. Literally the exact same thing is happening with SSR now in React.

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