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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      Companies rarely, if ever, actively prevent features from going into Open Source projects they are working on when they already have a proprietary solution. What happens is they “don’t have that problem” so they do nothing to resolve it, which effectively prevents the fix.

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    2. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      The distinction here is important. I keep coming back to package management in Go. It’s not that Google engineers don’t acknowledge its a problem, it’s that they just *don’t have that problem themselves* and that shapes how they approach resolving it.

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    3. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      What this means is, without a participatory governance structure, you can’t expect projects to resolve issues the people in power don’t have. Yelling at them is never effective, because they aren’t *actively* against your concerns.

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 7 Aug 2019
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      See also: web performance and React

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    5. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      I mean, there’s an example in every project of a certain size. Node.js blocked LTTNG tracing for Linux because... we already had DTrace and Joyent had a way to use that to trace their Linux VMs. One of the first features io.js shipped with was LTTNG support :)

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    6. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      The solution wasn’t to convince Joyent that LTTNG support was worth their time to review, it was to move to a participatory governance structure where people were empowered to resolve the issues they care about.

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    7. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      as far a React goes, I’m just out of patience for everyone in these arguments. if you aren’t Facebook, don’t use React if you have non-Facebook problems — they’ve made it clear how that project runs and what the priorities are.

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    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 7 Aug 2019
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      I wish this were visible to more people. Nearly nobody looks long or hard enough to grok these dynamics.

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    9. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      Modern startups have a very odd relationship with open source. Their businesses depend on it more than software they purchase and they expect a service guarantee (which doesn’t exist) that matches their need rather than their investment (which is $0)

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    10. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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      But I guess it all just gets lumped into the same general risk pool startups accumulate.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 7 Aug 2019
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      ...and their incentives (personal *and* organisational) have ~1yr time horizons. Remember when some of us thought we were making things for the long haul?

      11:43 AM - 7 Aug 2019
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        1. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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          Ya, one thing that is fun to look back on are the things we *thought* would be around for a while compared to the things that are *actually* around still. Reminds me that we can’t predict with any certainty what is actually going to stick.

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        2. David Brunelle‏ @davidbrunelle 7 Aug 2019
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          It's all ephemeral...

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        3. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 7 Aug 2019
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          If only that were true. It’s *mostly ephemeral, but some portion of things stay around for way too long.

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