Mozilla didn't ship a Web Components v1 impl until late '18:https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/11/the-power-of-web-components/ …
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Wasn't this in part due to compat issues caused by v0? We had similar problems with U2F -- Firefox got U2F support two years ago but couldn't ship it for quite a while because sites used Google's u2f.js which relied on implementation details.
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Replying to @ManishEarth @slightlylate and
And the end result was that websites would feature-detect u2f, try to use it, and break completely because their u2f wrapper expected Chrome's impl.
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That's exactly the problem you get, as night follows day, with one implementation shipping unflagged.
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Replying to @slightlylate @BrendanEich and
It is *insane* to me that other vendors don't have this infrastructure yet. It keeps us from shipping bad things all the time, and gives us *so* much more space to iterate.
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You mean other much smaller vendors with decreasing market share and (linked) revenue per annum?
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Replying to @BrendanEich @slightlylate and
He probably means those other two companies that are amongst the biggest in the world. https://www.google.com/search?tbm=fin&ei=DwgEXebSFsGotQWL9J7oBw&q=apple&oq=apple&gs_l=finance-immersive.12...0.0.0.25628.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0..0.0....0...1..64.finance-immersive..0.0.0....0.YPYGhnpASZQ#scso=_KggEXc37Eo2qsgWs3pWIBA2:0 … not exactly a mom & pop store.
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Replying to @matthewcp @slightlylate and
Apple, I get. They are special (tm). I didn't see another link in your tweet, did you mean MS? They are on the chromium bandwagon now, so don't count (no offense!).
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Replying to @BrendanEich @matthewcp and
Anyway, if these threads end with tu-quoque or mutual blame among Apple and Google, we all lose. There has to be a better way. Blaming Mozilla seems "off".
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Again, I'm not trying to blame. You asked the history, and it's painful. I'm optimistic that our new processes and tools (which we built in response to learning from these experiences) get us to a better way to collaborate and iterate -- partiuclarly WRT web developer input
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Replying to @slightlylate @matthewcp and
Well, I'm optimistic too, but more on account of chromium market power than any tools.
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