.@phae & I worked up name together, with no org support (everyone hated it! only got on board w/ name months after my personal blog post)
Also suspect @torgo, @AaronGustafson, @boyofgreen, & @andreasbovens would push back on the idea it's somehow Google-driven.
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MSFT and Samsung have been hosing PWA events *we didn't even know about* and they both beat us to Desktop PWAs by multiple years!
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Replying to @slightlylate @kennethrohde and
We collaborated with folks at Mozilla on Service Worker design and Manifest format extensions. And
@boyofgreen and I sketched out the rough "plan" for PWAs together in...what? '12? '13? This has been broad collaboration from the get-go.2 replies 0 retweets 10 likes -
Replying to @slightlylate @kennethrohde and
To this day, it's harder for me to get Google PM, DevRel, and BD excited about PWAs than it is to collaborate with external folks on solving these developer needs. Every. Single. Time.
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Replying to @slightlylate @kennethrohde and
(and because it's both true and because I'll pay for it later if I don't, cc:
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Replying to @slightlylate @kennethrohde and
I wouldn't say it's hard to get DevRel support on pwa, but we have to go deeper on every facet - speed, offline, installability, UI, UX, capability... Our team ends up focusing on those areas because that is where we can help a lot.
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Replying to @slightlylate @Paul_Kinlan and
Agree with
@torgo that PWA is a design pattern. I used the term "pinned apps" to mean something similar before "PWA". It was a useful label, but now the pattern is established I just think of them as web apps. PWA is often used to refer to Chrome-specific installability criteria.1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes -
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We discussed this at MDN PAB meeting last week. PWA should always mean cross-platform installable web app, not any browser-specific criteria. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Progressive_web_apps … I would like to work together to build this page up to become the source of truth about PWAs. /cc
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Replying to @torgo @slightlylate and
Sounds good. Perhaps it could be more explicit that PWA is a design pattern. PWA is really just a shorthand term to refer to a collection of web standards that make web apps more like native apps (installability, offline, standalone, app icons, push notifications etc.)
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I have thought about installability criteria like a permission, or a trade: sites that do the work to meet user expectations of other apps on the homescreen can get/show the prompt. It's a quality bar as much as anything.
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Replying to @slightlylate @bfrancis and
jumping into this old thread (on a digital vacation).
@slightlylate is correct. I think of PWA as a way to frame where the web needs to go. Call it architecture, call it a design pattern, call it marketing. It's a way to get us all on the same page and I think its working.2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes -
Replying to @boyofgreen @slightlylate and
I agree. But AJAX, HTML5, SPA, PWA, ..? It's an evolution. Eventually we just call them all web apps. What would be nice would be better user-facing terminology and marketing. "Add to home" is hard to explain. It would be great if "install the web app" was widely understood.
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