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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 5 Jun 2019
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      Alex Russell Retweeted PJ McLachlan  🌄

      Developers have asked us for a long time how they can pitch and optimise PWA installability; @b1tr0t and the team have done great research into what can (and does) work:https://twitter.com/b1tr0t/status/1136293261725786112 …

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      PJ McLachlan  🌄 @b1tr0t
      How should you let your frequent users know they can install your PWA? Rule #1) don't be annoying, rule #2) DO tell users about it when appropriate. Here are some patterns: https://developers.google.com/web/fundamentals/app-install-banners/promoting-install-mobile … #PWA #app
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    2. Stu Freen‏ @Stafree 12 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @b1tr0t

      The 30 second engagement heuristic is a bit of deal breaker from a UX perspective. If someone looks at a menu in the first 30 seconds and sees either a greyed out "install" link or no link, then they're not going to look back later.

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    3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @Stafree @b1tr0t

      There's no 30 second heuristic. PWA install UI only shows when we can verify that the SW installed successfully, and that's async.

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    4. PJ McLachlan  🌄‏ @b1tr0t 12 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @Stafree

      Wonder if there are UX tweaks that could be made. Thinking out loud, show the install button, allow a shortcut to be installed that can async be upgraded to a webapk if the user interacts with it? 🧐

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @b1tr0t @Stafree

      We can do better (on average) from a UI latency perspective by propagating a bloom-filter of installable sites so that we can start showing UI immediately on SW registration.

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    6. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @b1tr0t @Stafree

      This would necessarily prioritize sites that get lots of installs, but that feels right-ish. Doesn't need any new data and we can derive the list from the WebAPKs backend.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @b1tr0t @Stafree

      As for shortcut-upgrade, we should be doing that anyway for sites where the backends timeout and we do the fallback flow.

      9:19 AM - 12 Jun 2019
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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @b1tr0t @Stafree

          We can also be more aggressive about showing install UI when we get omnibox install for mobile *cough cough*

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @b1tr0t @Stafree

          That is, we do have an engagement bar today, but it's super low. We can do away with it entirely in an omnibox install world.

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        1. PJ McLachlan  🌄‏ @b1tr0t 12 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @Stafree

          agreed!

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