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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Don Marti‏ @dmarti 5 Jun 2019
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      The reason to nag people into installing the app is that Safari has #intelligentTrackingPrevention but SDKs in native apps can collect all the data they want when they want it. (Was the iOS team playing Candy Crush during the privacy meeting while the Safari team paid attention?)

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    2. Robin Berjon‏ @robinberjon 5 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @dmarti @tobie and

      I thought that would be the case but in people I've spoken to it's not been a driver.

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    3. Sam Grace Sneddon  🏳️‍🌈 (they/them)‏ @gsnedders 5 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @robinberjon @dmarti and

      I do wonder about it in the case of some of the major apps, like Facebook, especially with Messenger being app-only now.

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 5 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @gsnedders @robinberjon and

      That, and ability to send push notifications by default, are major drivers amongst the most...um...*growth oriented* players.

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    5. Sam Grace Sneddon  🏳️‍🌈 (they/them)‏ @gsnedders 5 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @robinberjon and

      So what is the Chrome team's plan to get those apps back into the browser, as they are on desktop? I strongly suspect, though obviously without the data you have, that they'd make a bigger effect on % of time in browser than most things currently happening under the Fugu banner.

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    6. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 5 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @gsnedders @robinberjon and

      "in the browser" may not literally mean "in the browser" -- nobody wants to type a URL on a mobile phone -- hence PWAs. Fugu fills out the general PWA approach for more classes of app. It's all of a piece.

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    7. Sam Grace Sneddon  🏳️‍🌈 (they/them)‏ @gsnedders 5 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @robinberjon and

      PWAs etc. are still "in the browser" for most practical purposes. My problem with what's happening with Fugu, as I said in (much later) tweets in the original thread, is that so many of the classes of apps are unlikely to account for more than a very small % of user time.

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    8. Sam Grace Sneddon  🏳️‍🌈 (they/them)‏ @gsnedders 5 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @gsnedders @slightlylate and

      If you're framing the web crisis as "users spend a small % in browsers" then surely you need to chase after the largest apps which users spend the majority of their time in?

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    9. Tobie Langel‏ @tobie 5 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @gsnedders @slightlylate and

      I don't think that's a great way to frame this.

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    10. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 5 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @tobie @gsnedders and

      Ignoring the whataboutism, there are important questions we should tease out and address head-on: the role of FOMO in developer decision-making and how adjacency-theory explains suppressed use

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 5 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @tobie and

      First, and I can't say this often enough, many Fugu capability requests come *directly* from top app developers.

      9:07 AM - 5 Jun 2019
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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 5 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @tobie and

          Pushing past the tactical, developers *frequently* express concern to us that they'll "miss out" on capabilities if they build for the web (vs. native). This is a key driver of short-term decision making in our experience. Folks don't want to be caught flat-footed vs. competition

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 5 Jun 2019
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          Historically, you could trust the web *not* to expand it's capability footprint. In the comparative lens, this means it's a dead language. You'll never expect it to keep up and deliver what you need to enable the new experiences you will want to deliver. FOMO suppresses interest

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