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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 2 Jun 2019
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      Alex Russell Retweeted Laurie Voss

      Ignoring @seldo's intemperate, self-owning ad-homenim, let's consider what it might mean...there are many versions! A few: 1.) *literally do exactly this* 2.) add building blocks 3.) start from syntaxhttps://twitter.com/seldo/status/1135150260425318400 …

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      Laurie Voss @seldo
      BUILD REACT INTO THE BROWSER YOU COWARDS
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    2. Malte Ubl‏Verified account @cramforce 3 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @seldo

      To me @seldo's tweet quite clearly articulates that browsers should ship some form of DOM diffing that can be used as a backend for popular frameworks natively and that JSX should become part of JS.

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    3. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani 3 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @cramforce @slightlylate @seldo

      DOM diffing itself is a bad idea and the core problem with most proposals in this area (even if none have been very concrete yet). We do have workable proposals in the area of updatable DOM though. We just need people to not dismiss them if they're not exactly like React.

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    4. Malte Ubl‏Verified account @cramforce 3 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @justinfagnani @slightlylate @seldo

      Tree diffing based UI updates is not a bad idea. It is the most impactful idea in frontend computing of the century.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Jun 2019
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      Replying to @cramforce @justinfagnani @seldo

      I think you're saying different things. Everyone agrees that reactive UI is good, but @justinfagnani is saying that the implementation that uses brute-force diffing is slow and we shouldn't prefer that *specific* way of servicing a JSX-like syntax

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        1. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani 3 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @cramforce @seldo

          Yes, and I think the specific impactful part of React is UI-as-value, and expression syntax for those values. VDOM and diffing are implementation details that most developers don't care about. We can offer the same DX and better UX without diffing.

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        2. Malte Ubl‏Verified account @cramforce 3 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @justinfagnani @seldo

          I don't recall saying anything about implementations.

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        3. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani 3 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @cramforce @slightlylate @seldo

          "diff" describes a technique. The technique is inefficient, and also what people are often literally proposing that we add to the DOM.

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        1. 50 CentOS‏ @darrenjennings 3 Jun 2019
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          is React's diffing brute force?

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        2. '); DROP Ţ̸͓̠̼͖̖̆ͫ̑̒̿ͪ͞A̐͏̠̫͔̰̖ͅͅB̉͌͒̈LE name; --‏ @fardarter 3 Jun 2019
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          Can we just have JSX-like syntax tho?

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        3. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani 3 Jun 2019
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          Replying to @fardarter @slightlylate and

          With what semantics?

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