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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 1 Jun 2019
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      Alex Russell Retweeted Elliott Sprehn

      With every major browser supporting WC or about to, frameworks not supporting them are making a choice *against* interop and *for* lockin at this very late date: https://custom-elements-everywhere.com/ https://twitter.com/ElliottZ/status/1134790076599193600 …

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      Elliott Sprehn @ElliottZ
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      It's a shame that React doesn't have better support for embedding other frameworks in general (which is also why WCs are difficult to use with it). WCs are the way Vue, React, Angular, and other devs can collaborate on widgets. React fixing this would move the whole web forward.
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    2. Dan Bucholtz‏ @danbucholtz 1 Jun 2019
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      Hot take 😅. Can we give the frameworks a minute? I think support became ubiquitous like a week ago. If it’s still a situation in two years, then sure, but right now tools need to come up with a path where they don’t break their users.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 1 Jun 2019
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      Everyone seems to have sorted this out with one glaring exception?https://custom-elements-everywhere.com/ 

      11:34 AM - 1 Jun 2019
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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 1 Jun 2019
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          The hottest take, of course, is that *even jQuery* does great with WC support and you have to really try to break it.

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        2. Ivan Čurić‏ @_baxuz 2 Jun 2019
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          The main issue with React is that it seems to have a... I'd dare say hatred towards the browser. It's basically a whole VM that's bypassing everything the browser offers to accomodate for the trainwreck that is React Native. All of its faults are a result of that approach.

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        3. Ivan Čurić‏ @_baxuz 2 Jun 2019
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          It's extremely similar to Java in that regard. Remember "Java everywhere"? Tens of millions of devs jumping on the bandwagon delivering software that makes Electron apps look like they were written by Chris Sawyer in assembly by comparison.

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        1. Dan Bucholtz‏ @danbucholtz 1 Jun 2019
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          I misinterpreted what you were saying as “frameworks should build on top of web components” instead of using property binding which sort of became an unofficial spec if you will.

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        1. Dan Bucholtz‏ @danbucholtz 1 Jun 2019
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          Eh, yes and no. I see your point certainly, 100%, but property binding is sort of a made-up, non-spec thing. Did anyone even do such a thing before React? Seems like React popularized the concept, & only did it for a React components, so hesitant to break user land for a non-spec

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