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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 30 May 2019
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      PSA re: the wild misreporting about Extensions Manifest v3: declarativeNetRequest *is a list-based blocker*, and that's what's being added. This is the same approach Apple/Safari uses for the same reasons (perf & privacy): https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/declarativeNetRequest …

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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 30 May 2019
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      This is similar to the way Chrome extensions didn't expose all the power that legacy FF extensions did; we all learn the hard way that providing nice things and hoping they don't get misused eventually get users hurt. So this is a correction whose details are being honed.

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    3. Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ 30 May 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate

      1. With the new system, would uBlock Origin work as well as it does now? 2. What are the concrete security problems that v3 attempts to address? 3. What is the threat model that the designs are being evaluated against?

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 30 May 2019
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      1.) Depends on where the (evolving) design lands, but I want to say "probably" because I trust the team is listening 2.) Too many extensions can log too much of what you do 3.) Experience

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 30 May 2019
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      And I understand that #3 sounds glib, but it's how Chrome Extensions initially came to be different from Firefox (and BHO/ActiveX-baesd) extensions and how most systems iterate. We're not predicatively more clever than all possible folks preying on users.

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    6. Jeffrey Yasskin‏ @jyasskin 31 May 2019
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      I think it's that experience revealed there were certain threats that needed to be included in the threat model. I'm not on the team, but I think an example is, "extension pretends to be an ad blocker, but actually sells your browsing history."

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    7. Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ 31 May 2019
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      I think there are alternative ways of addressing that risk that don't handicap good extensions. For example, in the JS context (worker, whatever) in the extension that has more access to view/change requests/responses, limit API surface area to block storage, networking, etc.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 31 May 2019
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      These are APIs that *do networking*. Do you have a concrete proposal?

      12:43 PM - 31 May 2019
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        2. Brian Smith‏ @BRIAN_____ 31 May 2019
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          Not my job to fix this for you.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 31 May 2019
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          True! At the same time, the offered suggestion is facially unworkable. I'm asking for a detailed set of suggestions because that's how we improve APIs; and I want to stress, we're *absolutely listening* and I'm happy to advocate for anything good to the team.

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