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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Stuart Langridge‏ @sil 11 May 2019
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      It being open source allows this (assuming they change the name, since Google trademarked it). But open source as a whole hasn't helped to refute the instinctive belief that this is an unfair thing to do: people *hate* it. It's the same thing causing the Mongo license change &c.https://twitter.com/DasSurma/status/1127080695627517953 …

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      So @kosamari just told me that someone packaged up http://proxx.app  and put it in the app store for $2 (someone also did this in the play store). But apparently you can't report apps in the app store. So I guess someone else will be earning money with our work 😒 pic.twitter.com/v8aXa1szmZ
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    2. Stuart Langridge‏ @sil 11 May 2019
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      The hardcore free software retort of "your are wrong to feel this is unfair" makes things worse. Ways to "fix" this issue which involve the phrase "legal team" only help if you're a huge company who have one. Open source may have won, but the race changed while that was happening

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    3. Surma‏ @DasSurma 11 May 2019
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      I am not a lawyer, so I am not sure if that person is indeed allowed to do _that_, but it feels like a dick move. If they made the app free, I wouldn’t mind at all. If they made significant changes to it and charged for it, I wouldn’t mind either (I’d like to think so, at least).

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 May 2019
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      The controlling interest here would be store policy, and then trademark. OSS is basically a non-issue in this case (as Proxx isn't GPL)

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    5. Stuart Langridge‏ @sil 11 May 2019
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      Sure. But the solution to "I released this thing and then someone packaged it up with no effort and they get paid and I don't" can't be "trademark the name of it", if we want everyone to benefit. Most do not have a legal team and budget to do that. Hence starting a conversation.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 May 2019
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      The app was built by Googlers for work; everyone got paid. The objections are bemusement, mostly at the cheek of it.

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        2. Surma‏ @DasSurma 11 May 2019
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          Yeah, it’s honestly best-case scenario that it happened to us. But the problem is systemic.

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        2. Stuart Langridge‏ @sil 11 May 2019
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          Agreed. What I'm trying to say here is, this is an actual problem that there don't seem to be good universal answers for, and it's showing up in quite a few places. Whether this needs a rethink of what OSS is, or a better bedside manner, or goes unresolved, is what I don't know.

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