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    1. Nathan Schloss‏ @n8Schloss 22 Apr 2019
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      Really excited about Facebook's first full API contribution to @googlechrome! isInputPending is now in origin trial, and has the potential to improve interactions on the web by quite a bit!https://code.fb.com/developer-tools/isinputpending-api/ …

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    2. Addictive Colors‏ @AddictiveColors 22 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @n8Schloss @ChromiumDev @googlechrome

      My chance this is a standard that @mozilla can implement in @firefox or is it yet another Chrome is the web+we have forgotten about IE and the dangers of a web monoculture?

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    3. Nathan Schloss‏ @n8Schloss 22 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @AddictiveColors @ChromiumDev and

      It's currently in origin trial in Chrome, so the standard proposal has not been finalized yet. But yes, it's imperative that this is a standard that can be implemented in all browsers. We're working with the Web Perf WG standards body to help ensure this.

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    4. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 22 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @n8Schloss @AddictiveColors and

      Was the API designed in the open? The only reference I can find is https://github.com/WICG/is-input-pending … which has very little activity or issues. I think it's important not to just have open standards but to actually design them in the open.

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    5. Nathan Schloss‏ @n8Schloss 22 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @matthewcp @AddictiveColors and

      It's super important this be designed with input from the broader community, this is why we're doing the origin trial and have that github. We're waiting for the community to have a chance to give more input too before publishing a proposed specification :)

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    6. Matthew Phillips‏ @matthewcp 22 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @n8Schloss @AddictiveColors and

      Right, what is confusing to me is how there is already an origin trial, meaning Chrome has implemented this feature, before the feature has been discussed (seemingly at all) in the open. That repo has almost no activity. I even sent a PR a few months ago with no response.

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    7. Addictive Colors‏ @AddictiveColors 22 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @matthewcp @n8Schloss and

      Was anyone from @mozilla or @webkit even consulted? Is there anyone apart from the @ChromiumDev and @facebook aware of this?

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    8. Nathan Schloss‏ @n8Schloss 22 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @AddictiveColors @matthewcp and

      Yes

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    9. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @n8Schloss @AddictiveColors and

      Also, WICG is as open as it gets; it's the broadest possible invitation to collaboration. Vendors that chose not to engage on proposals there can absolutely chose to pipe up later, but things get less malleable over time. If they didn't comment, it's not on WICG or API proposers

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @n8Schloss and

      Also, Origin Trials are explicitly designed to solicit feedback and facilitate iteration based on real developer input. The idea that things should "bake" in smoke-filled implemeter forums forever before implementation and user feedback is entirely backwards.

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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 22 Apr 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @n8Schloss and

          Blink/Chromium is working to put the horse before the cart: let's try things out and see what developers want without breaking the web in the process! That other engines lack this sort of infrastructure says more about them than it does abt Blink

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        3. Addictive Colors‏ @AddictiveColors 22 Apr 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @n8Schloss and

          Mmmhhh... not every time we see something only in one browser and pages start being optimised for that browser is because technology is at fault...

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