Tho checkbox is a tiny problem - over the weekend I was inspecting the Twitter web client compose dialogue and the amount of work the devs had to do to make a slightly advanced text area with mentions and hashtags work is massive I'm writing @gregwhitworth a 3 page email rn.
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I look froward to your three page mail.
@slightlylate and@domenic maybe@stubbornella and us should jump on a call some time. I'll be in town for Google I/O if you all want to chat as we're actively looking at this story.1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes -
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My colleague Hwi started looking into improved form controls last year after I banged on this gong for a little bit. The "easy" win is to improve the UX of the widgets we have; that's going to require a ton of research. More involved is better layering of existing stuff.
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I was thinking about something similar like how every single page has tooltips which is a massive pain with tons of edge cases an perf implications for something so easy to implement wrong and at the same time are just fancy title attributes. Should I write a proposal WDYT?
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@domenic this would be an interesting addition to html.@sebmarkbage,@acdlite, and@brian_d_vaughn were also telling us they had to do tons of extra layouts etc to position tooltips. Probably a missing API there.2 replies 0 retweets 6 likes -
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I wasn't suggesting adding them to HTML; hoping instead for exactly what you're suggesting. The positioning logic is hard; we can make that easier. The rest should be straightforward.
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FWIW, the difficulty level in "adding something to HTML" and "adding a low-level API to enable userspace" isn't much different; but the impacts are massively divergent...which is why we wrotehttps://github.com/extensibleweb/manifesto …
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Yeah, the issue with the extensible web manifesto is that it directly leads to more and more js over time if you never get to the part where you add high level features.
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Our theory was that this is a pendulum (and that things would swing back to high-level), but we were wrong about why people would change their behavior: there's *zero* evidence that people actually use what we put in the platform without (over)sending polyfills.
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New high-level features might eventually have impact, but only from a position when people are demanding them *in order to stay under budget*. There's no budget today. Nobody strives to stay under a meaningful limit.
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