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    1. Josh Thomas‏ @jthoms1 11 Apr 2019
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      I really wish the conversion about web components was better framed. 🤦‍♂️ Web components will NOT replace your framework. They are awesome because they don't NEED to replace your framework to provide massive value to you.

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    2. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani 12 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @jthoms1

      But they already have replaced frameworks for a lot of people. Both can be true.

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    3. Gray Norton‏ @graynorton 12 Apr 2019
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      Something can be true but also not effective or productive to say. 💯 to highlighting cases where web components allow folks to swap out a large fw for something lighter and more interoperable, but provocative headlines & context-free statements hurt more than help, IMO.

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Apr 2019
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      Replying to @graynorton @justinfagnani @jthoms1

      Maybe we can describe what happens on the journey instead? - On existing projects, WCs replace leaf component rewrites (design system widgets, etc.) - On new projects, a library of WC causes you to re-evaluate FW choices to focus on value - Over time, org standardises

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    5. 0gust1‏ @0gust1 12 Apr 2019
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      Also FWs get slimer and slimer and become DSLs that compile down to WC (I'm looking at you svelte 3 :) )

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    6. Rich Harris‏Verified account @Rich_Harris 12 Apr 2019
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      I wish that were true. Unfortunately compiling to WCs introduces overhead relative to plain JavaScript classes

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Apr 2019
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      Do you have data on this? Svelte is best-case-scenario for size; wondering what the portability tax is in practice.

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        2. Rich Harris‏Verified account @Rich_Harris 12 Apr 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @0gust1 and

          just toggle the customElement compiler option in the REPL — all the WC stuff is purely additive. And then of course there's the fact that you have to put your CSS in JS ;) https://v3.svelte.technology/repl?version=3.0.0-beta.23&gist=3f2c0013217ad0a179ac01f0496208ff …pic.twitter.com/B5LbKgUdTh

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        3. Rich Harris‏Verified account @Rich_Harris 12 Apr 2019
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          (note that it will only compile as a customElement if you specify a tag name; easiest way to do so in the REPL is to add <svelte:options tag="hello-world"/> at the top of the file)

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        2. Uppercod‏ @Uppercod 13 Apr 2019
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          but as the stack of svelte components increases, will not repetitive code be generated? that could surpass that of a framework... only in the case that each component is added independently

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        3. Rich Harris‏Verified account @Rich_Harris 13 Apr 2019
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          In theory, yes, there's an inflection point. In practice, no — as long as you're using code-splitting, the components for any given page of your app are very unlikely to outweigh the typical framework. But in any case the beauty of a declarative authoring format is that we

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