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    1. Josh Thomas‏ @jthoms1 11 Apr 2019
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      I really wish the conversion about web components was better framed. 🤦‍♂️ Web components will NOT replace your framework. They are awesome because they don't NEED to replace your framework to provide massive value to you.

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    2. Justin Fagnani‏ @justinfagnani 12 Apr 2019
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      But they already have replaced frameworks for a lot of people. Both can be true.

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    3. Gray Norton‏ @graynorton 12 Apr 2019
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      Something can be true but also not effective or productive to say. 💯 to highlighting cases where web components allow folks to swap out a large fw for something lighter and more interoperable, but provocative headlines & context-free statements hurt more than help, IMO.

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Apr 2019
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      Maybe we can describe what happens on the journey instead? - On existing projects, WCs replace leaf component rewrites (design system widgets, etc.) - On new projects, a library of WC causes you to re-evaluate FW choices to focus on value - Over time, org standardises

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    5. Dan Fabulich‏ @dfabu 12 Apr 2019
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      You call them "leaf component rewrites." For React in particular, I guess you mean that this would not follow the recommendation here, to wrap existing React components in custom elements?https://reactjs.org/docs/web-components.html …

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    6. Dan Fabulich‏ @dfabu 12 Apr 2019
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      Or maybe you mean the process works like this? 1) Wrap leaf nodes as WCs 2) Port leaf clients to WC API 3) Rewrite leaf nodes to stop using framework 4) New projects reconsider framework 5) Framework disappears?

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    7. Dan Fabulich‏ @dfabu 12 Apr 2019
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      I still just don't get it. If I'm happily using Preact (especially SSR) what advantages am I supposed to get out of switching to WCs? Not performance. Preact is smaller than LitElement and SSR is unbeatable for FCP. Not "standardization" when React is more popular than WCs.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Apr 2019
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      Reuse in big teams. WCs done well end the "does X component work in my app?" slog. Also, all the React use claims I've seen have big asterisks; do you have pointers to better data?

      10:00 AM - 12 Apr 2019
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        2. Gray Norton‏ @graynorton 12 Apr 2019
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          • As Alex said, interop is a huge win for large orgs with multiple teams & disparate stacks • Yes, React ecosystem is huge today, but the entire web ecosystem benefits if more vendors (like Ionic) ship components that work well with *every* framework

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        3. Gray Norton‏ @graynorton 12 Apr 2019
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          • Preact is great; if it's meeting all your needs, no reason for you to switch • lit-html and LitElement will get smaller when Template Instantiation lands in the platform • SSR is possible with web components, just not as far along – check Ionic's recent work here

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        1. Dan Fabulich‏ @dfabu 12 Apr 2019
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          "React use claims" To be clear, are you asking for data showing whether React is more popular than WCs?

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