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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 1 Apr 2019
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    Alex Russell Retweeted Katie Hempenius

    Long tasks, particularly from SSR rehydration, are a regrettable feature of today's web and entirely avoidable. How? Start by not shipping that JS down the wire, and only add it back in small, controlled doses.https://twitter.com/katiehempenius/status/1112442646184763393 …

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    Katie Hempenius @katiehempenius
    🎞 This is what First Input Delay (FID) looks like. The page looks ready, but the main thread is busy, so the browser can’t respond to my clicks. FID approximates this by measuring the time between the first user interaction w/ page & when the browser actually responds. pic.twitter.com/3UANd3uyWI
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      1. Nick‏ @NickColley 1 Apr 2019
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        see also: progressive enhancement

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      2. Giuseppe‏ @giuseppegurgone 1 Apr 2019
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        any practical recommendation on how to do that efficiently and effectively (maybe not by hand)?

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      3. Giuseppe‏ @giuseppegurgone 1 Apr 2019
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        progressive enhancement works but how would you hydrate an app partially and in "small doses"? Would you mainly use events and observers to decide when to hydrate?

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      1. Šime Vidas‏ @simevidas 1 Apr 2019
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        Maybe progressive rendering is a better way to tackle this. At least that’s what makes most sense to me. A delayed but smooth animation (iOS does this) is better than a janky one. ⇒ A delayed but interactive render is better than FID.

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      1. Tsavo van den Berg, Knott‏ @KnottTsavo 1 Apr 2019
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        How about a worker ? I'm currently multi-threading my application and shipped all business logic and long running tasks into dedicated workers. Processing and rendering approx 3000 messages before take about 10 to 15s now it's down to 1-2s all without locking up the main thread.

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      1. Tsavo van den Berg, Knott‏ @KnottTsavo 1 Apr 2019
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        Well actually I don't know if that would matter or help as much in the case of SSR but certainly long running tasks it has greatly benefited me.

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