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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. ᎬᎡᎥᏦ‏ @erikcorry 31 Mar 2019
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      ᎬᎡᎥᏦ Retweeted Sarah Hagi

      If the site isn’t visited often enough to be on my new tab page then the answer is going to be “no”. I wonder if any of my followers or perhaps @__apf__ feel like it’s time to revisit when websites are allowed to ask? @jaffathecake?https://twitter.com/geekylonglegs/status/1111806913069674496 …

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      Sarah HagiVerified account @geekylonglegs
      OMG WHY DOES EVERYONE WEBSITE I VISIT WANT TO SEND ME NOTIFICATIONS WHY IS THIS A THING NOW WHY THE HELL WOULD I WANT A NOTIFICATION FROM YOUR DUMB WEBSITE
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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 31 Mar 2019
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      Replying to @erikcorry @__apf__ @jaffathecake

      We are looking into many strategies to tamp down on this, chrome:site-engagement score being one /cc @beverloo @mikewest @ThomasTheDane

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    3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 31 Mar 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @erikcorry and

      BTW, we know how to do this right-ish: PWA install prompts started conservative to avoid spamminess, but notification request API was legacy and Mozilla and Apple have very much not helped matters by making progress on the permissions API difficult.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 31 Mar 2019
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      Replying to @slightlylate @erikcorry and

      My current starting place is to make push notifications a feature of super high engagement score; basically of it isn't installed as a PWA, you won't get the ability to ask.

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        2. Thaddee Tyl‏ @espadrine 1 Apr 2019
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          I worry that complex heuristics become a hair-tearing problem for legitimate authors, while malicious ones thrive in it. PWA-only is simple enough to be ok, as long as all browsers do the same thing.

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        3. Thaddee Tyl‏ @espadrine 1 Apr 2019
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          I also feel like the only notifications that are useful to me are those I seeked out first. Maybe we could forbid asking, and users could find the button in the URL bar?

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        1. Malte Ubl‏Verified account @cramforce 31 Mar 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @erikcorry and

          I think the two scenarios are: - I use this very regularly - I went through a paymentRequestAPI flow in the same session. Maybe then also some folks would actually start using that API

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        2. Mikeal Rogers‏ @mikeal 31 Mar 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @erikcorry and

          Every site that tries to do notifications without a PWA is sketchy that I can think of. "No, I don't want notifications from this fail blog."

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        1. Cheney Tsai‏ @cheneytsai 31 Mar 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @erikcorry and

          In many ways homescreen access is like a persistent (but usually passive) notification on the screen, so it makes sense the bar is similar.

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        2. Tulchin‏ @tulchin 31 Mar 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @erikcorry and

          Sounds a bit harsh. My main issue with it is that it takes the focus off the page and that it obscures part of the page/browser. A user gesture could be a first step for that.

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        3. Tulchin‏ @tulchin 31 Mar 2019
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          The general annoyance issue of getting asked this crap all of the time will not go away, it will be replaced with an "install me" banner (if you implement your suggestion). This is not much better.

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        1. KΞNNΞTH C. ⚡‏ @kennethrohde 1 Apr 2019
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          Replying to @slightlylate @erikcorry and

          Yes, that would even work for airlines etc for saving your boarding card etc

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