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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Ben Lesh‏ @BenLesh 11 Dec 2018
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      I've seen numbers. I fully believe @slightlylate and @addyosmani's assertions around who's using the web, with what devices, on what connections, and how they're all being hosed by huge framework apps' initial load times. It's a crisis.

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    2. Ryan Florence‏ @ryanflorence 11 Dec 2018
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      You sure it’s not ads?

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    3. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 11 Dec 2018
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      oh hai!https://twitter.com/AdamRackis/status/1072523190436544513 …

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      Adam Rackis @AdamRackis
      til CNN pumps down 2.7MB of JavaScript (gzipped - NOT parsed) The next time I hear a web perf advocate complaining about a 30kb js library I'm gonna start flipping tables so hard Jesus'll be all "yo dawg calm the fuck down" 😂 Addy never has, tbc. He's always been great 😀 https://twitter.com/addyosmani/status/1072520821887913984 …
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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @AdamRackis @ryanflorence and

      A bit of airplane wifi; you expect me to bite on tactless whataboutism? Nah. Will only note for those that aren't just trolling that I focus on 1p because until that's in reasonable shape, demanding 3ps behave is hipocrytical, blame-shifting, or both.

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    5. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 11 Dec 2018
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      Why not focus on the biggest perf hits, regardless of 1p or 3p? 3p seems to be pretty catastrophic. 1p can be brutal if you're not careful with your bundler (ie 3 copies of the entire d3 library) 1p client libraries seem tame in comparison.

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    6. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Dec 2018
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      1p sets the lower bound. If that isn't reasonable, there's no scope to demand concessions from third parties on. Besides, lowering 1p bloat is the only *reliable* way to reduce weight. How many negotiations do you go into with zero evidence or leverage?

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    7. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 11 Dec 2018
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      I don't follow your last question, sorry. I'm unfamiliar with 3p in general. Working on line of business web apps, as opposed to eCommerce / ad-based, I had no clue *just* how awful it was. 1/

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    8. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 11 Dec 2018
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      The biggest, most ambitious web app I've ever worked on was 7 years ago, tons of legacy crap / js scripts plopped in at startup, tangled and hard to code split. At our *worst* we were 1.2MB—that's before I started aggressively chipping away at it, when able. Got it to ~600K

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    9. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 11 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @AdamRackis @slightlylate and

      Would have gotten it lower, but times change and I'm no longer there. Worked briefly at a startup, on an evergreen web app. Predecessor didn't code split at all. Just upgrading to webpack 4 and adding code splitting reduced us from 1.6MB startup to 300K

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    10. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 11 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @AdamRackis @slightlylate and

      I care deeply about perf, but the rhetoric I often see doesn't match my experience in the least.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @AdamRackis @ryanflorence and

      so you’re catching up to how bad it really is out there...and how does that impact anything?

      10:00 AM - 11 Dec 2018
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        2. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 11 Dec 2018
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          Catching up to how bad it is "out there" for ad-based sites? Indeed. But perf guidelines shouldn't assume everyone is working in that gross world.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Dec 2018
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          I’m setting guidelines based on what’s possible combined with what’s necessary to deliver good experiences. If you have evidence (vs. e.g., reaction) that should cause me to change my views, will always consider new data.

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