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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Dec 2018
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      Alex Russell Retweeted Lea Verou

      I worry this article misses a larger issue: "full stack" tends to mean an ignorance of client-side constraints (nevermind the tools and techniques). Therefore the default stack for unspecialised engineers is simply unfit for most purposes *and they don't even know it*https://twitter.com/LeaVerou/status/1069843450235895808 …

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      Lea VerouVerified account @LeaVerou
      Today this article was all over my feed. After reading it, I understand why. Fantastic read, finally someone raised this! https://twitter.com/heydonworks/status/1069611612657598464 …
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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Dec 2018
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      Client-side eng is wicked hard because you're programming computers you don't control or spec over networks you can't predict. Not taking that seriously is how you get legacy, desktop-oriented frameworks deployed to mobile. It's like taking your Swing apps to Android: just no.

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    3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Dec 2018
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      Watching my industry decide that this is a good idea (throwing out decades of understanding) then being serially shocked at the poor results is a metaphor for our age. Technical I've-got-mine-Jack-ism is the mania, with no way to break the fever in sight.

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Dec 2018
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      So this isn't CS vs. not-CS (apologies to @heydonworks for overgeneralising his points), it's that these people are *bad* at programming the most perf-sensitive computers in the discipline (UI) that is *the most* latency sensitive.

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 3 Dec 2018
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      Nobody is succeeding at UI when they produce slow, janky experiences for most users. Best case, they're demonstrating proficiency with prototyping tools. High-time that hiring managers got wise to this. Test the portfolio site on a mid-range device, not your MBP or iPhone.

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    6. Jeremy Keith‏Verified account @adactio 4 Dec 2018
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      “Best case, they're demonstrating proficiency with prototyping tools.” Yup. People are releasing prototype code into production:https://adactio.com/journal/14562 

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    7. xnoɹǝʃ uɐıɹq‏ @brianleroux 4 Dec 2018
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      Replying to @adactio @slightlylate

      Interesting. I wonder. Could we sell "classical" separation of concerns including, gasp, full page reloads.. as prototyping. Just a way to get started until the A Team shows us all how it's done..

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 4 Dec 2018
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      I'd take full page reloads (and minus the JS) over much of what I'm seeing. With enough JS bloat, server think time + RTTs and wild variance beats reliably broken-feeling SPA experiences. Current tools put the latter in easy reach of too many teams.

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        2. xnoɹǝʃ uɐıɹq‏ @brianleroux 4 Dec 2018
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          SPA primarily, ironically, to achieve jank-free state transitions. If portals land I probably wouldn't write one again. Think most would not because opting out has way better outcomes. Esp true if transitions are declarative.

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        3. Jake Archibald‏ @jaffathecake 4 Dec 2018
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          I'm not sure portals is enough on its own. Eg, it doesn't seem to enable hooking into navigations caused by the back button.

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        1. Heydon‏ @heydonworks 4 Dec 2018
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          A slide from my latest talk about strategies for content (blog) sites:pic.twitter.com/9kstAXsRQ9

          Points out that static generation and critical JS is better than server side rendering and rehydration for content sites like blogs
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