The JS community has done a lot to rubbish the value of HTML and CSS and it has not been a good thing for users or developers.https://twitter.com/alicegoldfuss/status/1060960196288143360 …
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Replying to @slightlylate
This is the second time I've heard someone say that JS people rubbish HTML and CSS. I spend a fair amount of time talking to JS developers and I have never heard anyone do this. Can you remember who did this and when?
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Replying to @seldo @slightlylate
It doesn't make any sense to me. The primary thing JavaScript does is generate HTML and CSS. It's like somebody who builds ovens saying that bread is stupid.
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Replying to @seldo
Not "stupid", just not as valuable (in the eyes of ovenmakers) as excellence in ovens. Warped perspective plays out in subtle ways.
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Replying to @slightlylate @seldo
focusing on html/css is not different, just another middle technology to the real thing we're after: the user experience.
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Replying to @ryanflorence @seldo
Of *course* that's true. Strong agreement. What I observe in so many cases these days are bad trade-offs being made because CSS/HTML aren't the "right way" (when they very much are, post total-ordering)
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Agreed. One example of this can be when adhering to good a11y practices “ruins” certain declarative codeflows and therefore (I’m guessing?) their developer experience. I’ve seen trade offs made because they didn’t want “ugly” code and blamed HTML.
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It is possible that I am too deeply a native HTML speaker to understand somebody who finds it difficult.
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I'm with you. I cannot really get into the headspace of HTML being a difficult language to learn/use. Knowing some nuances takes time to get expertise in, but that's every language.
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Value of something is not necessarily linked to its difficulty. We’re not saying it’s overly difficult we’re saying that knowing it well is culturally devalued and has been for a while.
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