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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 9 Nov 2018
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      Alex Russell Retweeted bletchley punk is masked up

      The JS community has done a lot to rubbish the value of HTML and CSS and it has not been a good thing for users or developers.https://twitter.com/alicegoldfuss/status/1060960196288143360 …

      Alex Russell added,

      bletchley punk is masked up @alicegoldfuss
      This thread is giving me a lot of feels. I learned HTML/CSS so I could make simple fan sites and edit LiveJournal. It was incredibly fun. I was one of the only kids in my friends group doing it. By the time I reached college this wasn't "real programming." https://twitter.com/anildash/status/1060754945434157056 …
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    2. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 9 Nov 2018
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      This is the second time I've heard someone say that JS people rubbish HTML and CSS. I spend a fair amount of time talking to JS developers and I have never heard anyone do this. Can you remember who did this and when?

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    3. Laurie Voss‏ @seldo 9 Nov 2018
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      It doesn't make any sense to me. The primary thing JavaScript does is generate HTML and CSS. It's like somebody who builds ovens saying that bread is stupid.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 9 Nov 2018
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      Not "stupid", just not as valuable (in the eyes of ovenmakers) as excellence in ovens. Warped perspective plays out in subtle ways.

      11:56 AM - 9 Nov 2018
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        2. Ryan Florence‏ @ryanflorence 9 Nov 2018
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          Replying to @slightlylate @seldo

          focusing on html/css is not different, just another middle technology to the real thing we're after: the user experience.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 9 Nov 2018
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          Of *course* that's true. Strong agreement. What I observe in so many cases these days are bad trade-offs being made because CSS/HTML aren't the "right way" (when they very much are, post total-ordering)

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        1. pete_otaqui‏ @pete_otaqui 10 Nov 2018
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          In fact, I would argue that it’s HTML (& HTTP) that’s been wildly successful, and JS has just been riding its coat tails.

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