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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Oct 2018
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      Per @ericlaw, I may have been confused about the question! I thought you were referring to the Cortex A12: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_Cortex-A12 …

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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Oct 2018
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      ...rather than the A12 Bionic from Apple: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/apple/ax/a12 … The Apple A12 is superior to the Qualcomm 845 in every way. Totally dominates.

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    3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Oct 2018
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      The A12 is OUT OF THIS WORLD: https://www.anandtech.com/show/13392/the-iphone-xs-xs-max-review-unveiling-the-silicon-secrets/2 … vs.: https://www.anandtech.com/show/12420/snapdragon-845-performance-preview … The caches alone...lordy.

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Oct 2018
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      https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/10309972  vs: https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/55  It's a bloodbath. The Pixel 3 never had a chance.

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Oct 2018
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      Qualcomm is getting mauled over and over and over. They don't produce a premium chip, but they charge as though the 845 is one...it's unbelievable. The 850 looks like weak sauce too: https://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/3061159/qualcomm-snapdragon-850-benchmarks-leak-but-dont-promise-the-world … Hey @stshank: any chance y'all will report on this?

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    6. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Oct 2018
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      I mean...crikey. iPhone *7* still trouncing androids in single core workloads: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/10309972  https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/10310057  https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/10310084 

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    7. Rob Palmer‏ @robpalmer2 12 Oct 2018
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      For over 3 years @codinghorror has been signalling that Qualcomm has been holding Android back. https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%40codinghorror%20qualcomm&src=typed_query … I am super curious as to why a competitor has not stepped in and eaten Qualcomm's lunch.

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    8. Eric Lawrence  🎻‏ @ericlaw 12 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @robpalmer2 @slightlylate and

      Maybe building world-class CPUs is hard?

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    9. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 13 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @ericlaw @robpalmer2 and

      Ok, but the thesis for why they're 2+ generations behind is...what? That between Intel and Samsung and Spreadtrum and MediaTek and Xaomi, nobody knows how to build a chip with reasonable caches?

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    10. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 13 Oct 2018
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      It seems more reasonable to me that this is down to negative externalities: Apple isn't really a competitor for Qualcomm and everyone kows it. No Android OEM but Samsung pushes enough volume to be able to call shots in chip design planning, and so they market what they can get.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 13 Oct 2018
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      Replying to @slightlylate @ericlaw and

      Samsung, like everyone else in Android-land, is mostly competing against other Androids. On that account, you hold up "core count", say it's "faster than our previous phone by X%" in cherrypicked benchmark, and count on a docile tech press to maintain the illusion.

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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 13 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @slightlylate @ericlaw and

          Doing more costs more -- die size is real $$$ -- so everyone has an incentive not to do more. So Androids (and other non-Apple ARM devices) remain structurally behind. Modern cores, starved of cache, structurally under-performing.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 13 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @slightlylate @ericlaw and

          I don't get why MSFT isn't trying to apply some pressure here re: Surface. This imbalance is playing out in premium tablets too. Maybe it's another agency-theory + volume issue? Intel has a "solution" so long as you compromise your design: https://www.windowscentral.com/why-surface-uses-intel-vs-qualcomm …

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        2. Sam Grace Sneddon  🏳️‍🌈 (they/them)‏ @gsnedders 13 Oct 2018
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          Some of it's almost certainly just cost of the SoC and profit margins too. What's Samsung's incentive to move to a more expensive SoC (with a larger die and more cache) and reduce their profit margins? Will they get that much in the way of extra sales to justify that?

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 13 Oct 2018
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          Replying to @gsnedders @ericlaw and

          This is where the tech press is really culpable. Incentives come in lots of forms.

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