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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Ben Werdmuller‏Verified account @benwerd 29 Sep 2018
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      Ben Werdmuller Retweeted EricaJoy

      I’d go so far as to say: the identity provider should be a protocol on the web itself, under public control rather than a single private entity.https://twitter.com/EricaJoy/status/1046108050896171013 …

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      EricaJoyVerified account @EricaJoy
      Exactly this. Identity on the web is in dire need of an overhaul. We at least need an identity provider whose entire business is not based on selling access to us or our information. https://twitter.com/kashhill/status/1046102646560632835 …
      3 replies 8 retweets 26 likes
    2. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 29 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @benwerd @scottjenson

      Perhaps. But it’s not correct for her to present this as somehow connected to the business model. That’s just riding the hobby horse.

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    3. Scott Jenson‏Verified account @scottjenson 29 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @benedictevans @benwerd

      Fair. But I think Ben's point is more we need a standard that companies can be built on top of, sort of like SMTP is the basis of web email companies (not a perfect analogy). That standard can create a safe/trusted way that is independent (one would hope) of a business model

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    4. Benedict Evans‏Verified account @benedictevans 29 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @scottjenson @benwerd

      That’s certainly possible, and crypto (yes buzzword) is probably the answer, if there is one. I’m also interested in what Apple could do here - I’d love an ApplePay-like modal sheet for giving an app or website an identity.

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    5. Scott Jenson‏Verified account @scottjenson 29 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @benedictevans @benwerd

      If Apple were to make this an open standard for others (much like they did for CSS3) I'd be all for that. Again, there is nothing stopping Apple from deeply integrating this open standard and being better in many ways: compete on implementation, not the core API

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    6. Ben Werdmuller‏Verified account @benwerd 29 Sep 2018
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      Right right right. It would almost certainly be a JavaScript API, just like (eg) microphone and camera access are. If it was one company’s proprietary solution we haven’t gained anything. Then vendors compete on user experience and features over the top, as they do with email.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 29 Sep 2018
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      Replying to @benwerd @scottjenson @benedictevans

      The idea that a browser vendor gives up control over the endpoint of an API just because it's exposed to script is a rookie assumption. The politics and tactics go much, much deeper. Just look at how the open API f or payments (PR+PRH) got locked back down by Apple.

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