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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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      So I said I'm going to start discussing how "modern" frontend practice impacts experiences using public sector sites. Lets get into it. You know who deserves the very best experience? Our Veterans. ...meanwhile at http://vets.gov ...: https://www.webpagetest.org/result/180912_6Q_5fd08e0ef64071de6f3cd266c36a3cac/ …

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    2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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      That's a heck of a thing for a largely static site: https://www.webpagetest.org/result/180912_6Q_5fd08e0ef64071de6f3cd266c36a3cac/ …

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    3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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      400K of JS on the wire? For a largely-static `.gov` site? I smell a framework! https://www.webpagetest.org/result/180912_6Q_5fd08e0ef64071de6f3cd266c36a3cac/1/breakdown/ …

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    4. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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      US Veterans, as a whole, are not a wealthy group. They are as likely to be at risk for homelessness as to be able to afford the best hardware: http://nchv.org/index.php/news/media/background_and_statistics/ …

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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      There's a little good news on this front, but it doesn't change the overall picture about technology access:https://endhomelessness.org/resource/veteran-homelessness/ …

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    6. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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      What are those 400K providing our veterans and their loved ones? Drop-down menus, AFAICT. And a type-ahead search. Also React, React DOM, Promise and Object.assign polyfills (in browsers that have both natively), Modernizr, a copy of `core-js`, etc. etc. etc.

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    7. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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      And that's just the vendor file!: https://www.vets.gov/generated/vendor.entry.574d7c1b8a175484ffb9-1536687772278.js …

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    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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      Because this is in the now-traditional style of cultural-React-inspired DIY-bloat (everything's pluggable, which means an exercise to the reader), the app bundle includes Proptypes, what *looks* like a full copy of Lodash, and oh so very much more.

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    9. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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      The net result is to push TTI in this trace back nearly 4 full seconds: https://www.webpagetest.org/video/compare.php?tests=180912_6Q_5fd08e0ef64071de6f3cd266c36a3cac-r:1-c:0 …

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    10. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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      There's a lot going on deeper in this app, it seems: https://github.com/department-of-veterans-affairs/vets-website/tree/master/content/pages … But why is the front-page paying for that? Why are our vets and their loved ones being slowed down in accessing essential services this way?

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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      If there's something that *doesn't* need React, it's a drop-down menu. The sport of pure-CSS drop-downs was won more than a decade ago. There's no excuse.

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        2. Ryan Florence‏ @ryanflorence 11 Sep 2018
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          Those aren’t accessible, but cool rant.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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          Let's say you do need JS (or a drop-down, which you probably don't). That only leaves ~390K to explain.

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        2. Dan Abramov‏ @dan_abramov 11 Sep 2018
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          If I look at the source (in Sources pane) then what I'm seeing seems related to authentication, forms, making claims, etc. So if anything I think the goal was to make the logged-in experience have less latency from page reloads. Of course should’ve been code split from main page.

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        3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 11 Sep 2018
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          "less latency from page reloads" would be preloading cacheable assets at low priority (e.g., a <link rel="preload"> or a SW install phase), not running code on pages that don't use them.

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        1. Glory of Lurv‏ @jessebeach 11 Sep 2018
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          And godspeed making that React or even pure-CSS dropdown accessible. Simple design. Static, clear affordances. Don't overwhelm. I'm 100% with you here.

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        1. Dorian Patterson‏ @Imaginationac 11 Sep 2018
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          One of the few reasons I am nervous about becoming a veteran is the level of support provided by websites like this. Aside from page weight issues, many government websites have long daily maintenance windows which makes access difficult, especially overseas.

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        2. Kory Nunn‏ @KoryNunn 11 Sep 2018
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          I agree with this point, but am always concerned when people use just CSS for 'modal' content. Often mistakes are made that lead to screenreaders reading a whole bunch of content that should not be in the page.

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        3. lmeyerov‏ @lmeyerov 11 Sep 2018
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          Keep in mind the other side of this kind of stuff is Cobol boxes running in basements, specs that came out of the telephone game from years ago, and weakly tooled & trained devs. From an empathy perspective, If we want Google quality dev, we need _easier_ Google-quality tooling.

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