…and the problems with markets are not limited to inequality — it's not as if "those with dosh" have access to a secure operating system or a decent browser, for example. As far as I understand it, that's more a "market for lemons" problem?
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Replying to @bahstgwamt @kragen and
It's a huge issue, and a source of great technical inequity. The assumption that everyone carries a $500+ device does much to embed and exascerbate these biases.
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Replying to @slightlylate @kragen and
I don't blame the React team for anything more than the usual sins of wealth and privilege. Is it grotesque bordering on obscene? Absolutely. Will FB ever do anything more than duck responsibility for pervasively poor results? TROLOLOLOLOL
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I think wealth and privilege are, if not exactly virtues, at least good things that everyone should have more of. The sin is using them thoughtlessly. But we can't expect every hacker to quit their well-paying job and move to a third-world country for decades
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Replying to @bahstgwamt @kragen and
They're relative measures. Everyone should have a higher standard of living. Higher relative weather?

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Replying to @slightlylate @kragen and
I like this conversation. The perspective I would add is that of course white dudes in wealthy nations aren't going to solve far away problems for people without wealth. That's not an expectation any of us should have.
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Replying to @polotek @slightlylate and
Instead I think there are a couple of issues that keep these people from solving their own problems (the preferred solution IMO). One is the pressure to centralize the market, e.g. the bigs monopolize and suffocate upstarts.
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Replying to @polotek @slightlylate and
The other is what *I think*
@slightlylate is kind of getting at. Hardware is still expensive and also controlled by the bigs. The bigs leverage that to also peddle their monstrous frameworks, and don't support a wider OSS community in solving more localized problems.1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes -
I observe as much "well, <BigCo> uses X..." in NBU markets as I do here, usually coupled with an ignorance of *actual* BigCo practice.
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Replying to @slightlylate @polotek and
Here we go again with the markets. "San Francisco is one of my favorite markets. It's full of such nice consumers! Just last week I was in San Francisco and a consumer there saw I was having trouble crossing the street; she and another consumer helped me up the curb!"
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Replying to @slightlylate @polotek and
It's not that it's offensive; it's just that to me it bespeaks a commerce-centered framing that implicitly marginalizes non-market solutions, which I think are the only ones that have a chance of working. No need to apologize. Maybe I should apologize for making fun of you.
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