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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami 12 Aug 2018
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      Javascript is like if Python didn't admit Python 2 and Python 3 were different languages.

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    2. Jacob M-G Evans  ⚛‏ @JacobMGEvans 12 Aug 2018
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      Are you referring to supersets like typescript, or differences in javascript as they add features from newer ECMAScripts which is the spec for javascript?

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    3. Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami 12 Aug 2018
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      import

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    4. Jacob M-G Evans  ⚛‏ @JacobMGEvans 12 Aug 2018
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      So ES6 vs ES5? Are you purposefully being ambiguous?

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    5. Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami 12 Aug 2018
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      JS is the language of purposeful ambiguity :) I like watching people learn not to document the parts that won't work in a few months, so they don't get yelled at for having out of date documentation. Big holes, same places.

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    6. kiniry‏ @kiniry 12 Aug 2018
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      Let’s just be blunt: to a PL researcher, JS is a fascinating, horrifying, steaming pile of shit. And with node.js, the world has adopted a programming style rejected by the PL and SE communities as unreasonable and unmaintainable decades ago.

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    7. Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami 12 Aug 2018
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      JS is proof that if you get the *RIGHT* right things right, a shocking number of the "wrong things" slip away. If eliminating punctuation isn't a first class citizen in your PL research, you missed the universe that decides -- humans. JS missed that too. Python didn't.

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    8. Bob Ippolito‏ @etrepum 12 Aug 2018
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      JS is proof that the web is a powerful motivator, I don’t think you can really make other conclusions from its ubiquity.

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    9. Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami 12 Aug 2018
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      You have to dig into why the web motivates. The math is not enough (or more accurately, you have to employ different math, measure different things.)

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    10. Bob Ippolito‏ @etrepum 12 Aug 2018
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      It’s the only low barrier way to deploy to billions of people. Shallow learning curve to get going since you often start by adding little bits of code to otherwise static markup.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Aug 2018
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      +1. Zero-friction distribution + stable naming + indexability are the only redeeming qualities. Other tech attaches itself to that value chain.

      11:05 AM - 12 Aug 2018
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        2. Dan Kaminsky‏Verified account @dakami 12 Aug 2018
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          Oh, there's lots of stuff right in JS. One of the problems I think we have is that people don't know why JS worked. It's not *just* because it was the only game in town for browsers.

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