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Chrome Project 🐡 & Web Standards TL; Blink API OWNER Named PWAs w/ @phae; probably making her ☕ DMs open. Tweets my own; press@google.com for official comms.

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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @stshank @mozilla @letsencrypt

      I agree that there's a cost. It's a cost that we've externalized (as a community) until now. Not being able to actually know who's on the other end of the line is a price that users have borne via malware and other sorts of badness.

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    2. Kevin Marks‏ @kevinmarks 12 Jun 2018
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      I have had an http site MITM'd maybe 5 times in 20 years. I get noxious crap injected by javascript adtech pretty much every day. I know you care about both, but "anti-vaxxers" is not a helpful framing.

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    3. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @kevinmarks @stshank and

      That you know of. I mean, how often did you connect over insecure wifi? Or a terrible (perhaps pwn'd) gateway?

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    4. Kevin Marks‏ @kevinmarks 12 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @slightlylate @stshank and

      How about extending subresource integrity to <a> and <img> links? Mitigate the http issue that way?

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    5. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @kevinmarks @stshank and

      How does that help if the top-level document can also be MITM'd?

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    6. Kevin Marks‏ @kevinmarks 12 Jun 2018
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      It would help with cross site links and decentralised integrity. The certificate model has had its share of failures too. ACME must be quite an attractive target by now too.

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    7. Kevin Marks‏ @kevinmarks 12 Jun 2018
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      "so, every site should install this script that runs daily and can add an arbitrary page or subdomain to your site if asked. Then if that works it should replace its certificates with ones that it is given and restart apache" - it is a little worrying

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    8. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @kevinmarks @stshank and

      Do these hosts not cron log rotation?

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    9. Kevin Marks‏ @kevinmarks 12 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @slightlylate @stshank and

      It's all https://indieweb.org/admin_tax  one way or another. There are successful companies with superbowl ads and underwriting lots of podcasts who are arbitraging that into $

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    10. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @kevinmarks @stshank and

      There's obviously a change here, and it might be difficult to do. One of the most important things, tho, is that once this is ecosystem-wide, TLS will become the default and every competent hosting provider will auto-upgrade these sites.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @slightlylate @kevinmarks and

      So I hear what you're saying, but we need to understand that what we were doing before _was wrong_. It simply was.

      6:07 PM - 12 Jun 2018
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        2. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 12 Jun 2018
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          Fixing it requires change, in the same way that we're going to need to get fossil-fuel cars off the road to reduce carbon emissions.

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        3. Kevin Marks‏ @kevinmarks 12 Jun 2018
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          Replying to @slightlylate @stshank and

          but are you building bike lanes, london underground quality mass transit, or letting Tesla buyers into the carpool lanes?

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