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    1. Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 1 Jun 2018
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      Alex Russell Retweeted Brad Frost

      Brad makes an important point here: JSX is a proprietary language which is *not* on a trajectory to standardisation. Investing in it means taking on that toolchain *forever*.https://twitter.com/brad_frost/status/1002586347448815616 …

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      Brad Frost @brad_frost
      ✎ I wrote some more thoughts about @sarah_edo's article and how it all relates to my struggle with React. http://bradfrost.com/blog/link/replacing-jquery-with-vue-js-no-build-step-necessary/ …
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    2. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 1 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @slightlylate

      How is this any different from TypeScript?

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    3. Eric Simons  🧑‍🚀‏ @ericsimons40 1 Jun 2018
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      Because JSX doesn’t boil down to anything that’s human readable. Compiling a TS file to ESM = the exact same code, just no type defs.

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    4. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 1 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @ericsimons40 @slightlylate

      No. You're still completely tied to the particular tool in either case. You need tsc to turn your ts into something useful, and you need a jsx transform to turn your jsx into function calls (they're just function calls btw, definitely readable by humans)

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    5. Eric Simons  🧑‍🚀‏ @ericsimons40 1 Jun 2018
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      Argument isn't tools required, it's lack of standardized output language. tsc strips code of types which = vanilla ESM, whereas JSX turns code into function calls that are coupled specifically to (p)react (i.e. non-standardized format)

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    6. Eric Simons  🧑‍🚀‏ @ericsimons40 1 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @ericsimons40 @AdamRackis @slightlylate

      Also, unclear why JSX exists if React.createElement is particularly human readable 😉

      2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
    7. Jason Miller  🦊 ⚛‏ @_developit 1 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @ericsimons40 @AdamRackis @slightlylate

      Readability isn't binary :P

      2 replies 0 retweets 13 likes
    8. Eric Simons  🧑‍🚀‏ @ericsimons40 1 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @_developit @AdamRackis @slightlylate

      Agreed, but unclear how this negates the fact JSX was created (and now universally adopted) to solve readability/usability problems for React.createElement

      1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
    9. Jason Miller  🦊 ⚛‏ @_developit 1 Jun 2018
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      Replying to @ericsimons40 @AdamRackis @slightlylate

      I can't speak to the original intentions, but I've always assumed JSX was actually created to avoid a runtime parse. Otherwise I'm sure React et al would just use tagged template literals.

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      Alex Russell‏ @slightlylate 1 Jun 2018
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      React and JSX also started before ES6 was in the can. We dithered too long to help them = \

      2:19 PM - 1 Jun 2018
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        2. Adam Rackis‏ @AdamRackis 1 Jun 2018
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          I don't think tagged templates are the drop-in replacement many think. Events are the main sticking point, iirc. Much cleaner to implement with jsx, `this` problems notwithstanding.

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        3. Dominic Gannaway‏ @trueadm 1 Jun 2018
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          I even wrote a tagged template library (the first of its kind, I believe) that brought tagged templates like power instead of JSX like 3 years ago (before tagged templates were even out). http://github.com/trueadm/t7  At the time I loved tagged templates, but then I saw the issues :/

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