ah yeah! I kinda forgot about that lol. I should have a look to see how that functions. I’m actually pretty happy with webpack, i find it fairly reliable for me and my workflow. But eventually it’ll become less useful than built in browser support. Doesn’t hurt to get out ahead
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They only landed in Firefox a couple of weeks ago so it's a pretty fresh win. :)
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Webpack+HMR === megawin for my dev workflow. Webpack as a devtool will stay for a long time imho. Even with vanilla.
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I agree! I'm suggesting folks give the vanilla platform a chance before adopting these tools. You might be surprised!
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WC are landing in FF this year too; already in Chrome, Opera, UC, Samsung Internet, and Safari. You only need polyfills for FF (for a little while) and Edge/IE.
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Problem with webComponents is lack of server side rendering
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Is this good enough performance for a production website? It seems to be aimed at bots, I'm rendering server side for humans
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If you're alluding to this broke "SSR" pattern, don't do that. Just ship less JS.
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I don't know what the broke SSR pattern is. I want to render server side to have fast initial paint an then apply js as quick as possible and lazily. Server side rendering doesn't necessarily mean js
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Don't do that. What I see in traces is slow initial paints from lack of flushing and too much late-loaded JS, delaying TTI and delivering effectively broken experiences. You've been sold a bill of goods.
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I think we are talking about different things. Do you have an article or something about these traces and what causes slow paints?
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Paint is the wrong metric. Rendered but unusable content is...well, unusable. The metric to optimise for is Time-to-Interactive (which, for RUM, is FID). See:https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2018/05/first-input-delay …
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