Look I'm all for this *but it doesn't work against propaganda*
@slatestarcodex you might want steelmanning, charity, good faith, but we don't live in that world anymore than we live in a world where material needs are met and discrimination is gone.http://slatestarcodex.com/2018/05/08/varieties-of-argumentative-experience/ …
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2) I understand you're probably gesturing at a broader point, which is that good discourse isn't useful at all until we get that world. I disagree, and I've written a little about why at http://slatestarcodex.com/2014/02/23/in-favor-of-niceness-community-and-civilization/ … andhttp://slatestarcodex.com/2017/03/24/guided-by-the-beauty-of-our-weapons/ …
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3) The short version is that I think this works the same as every other virtue. Some people say there's no point in being kind, given that we live in an unkind world where rulebreakers can always beat people who play fair.
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