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I have a place where I say complicated things about philosophy and science. That place is my blog. This is where I make terrible puns.

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    1. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh 7 Aug 2017

      Hey @slatestarcodex, in re your current post, do you realize that computer programming was nearly ONE HUNDRED PERCENT FEMALE originally?

      3 replies 11 retweets 45 likes
    2. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @adrienneleigh

      Did you know, @slatestarcodex, that men DELIBERATELY CREATED the thing-oriented nerd stereotypes now used to exclude women from tech?

      1 reply 5 retweets 25 likes
    3. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @adrienneleigh

      Because if you didn't know that, @slatestarcodex, you might want to fucking educate yourself on the subject before mouthing off about it.

      1 reply 2 retweets 21 likes
    4. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @adrienneleigh

      The PROBLEM, @slatestarcodex, isn't whether there are biological personality differences. Undoubtedly there are! The PROBLEM is that you can

      1 reply 1 retweet 15 likes
    5. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @adrienneleigh

      ...make up just-so stories about why basically ANY given profession requires "feminine" traits or "masculine" traits, @slatestarcodex, and

      2 replies 1 retweet 24 likes
    6. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @adrienneleigh

      The "computer programmer" that was 100% female was quite different from today's profession. I mentioned (and cited graph) about how % (cont)

      2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
    7. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @slatestarcodex @adrienneleigh

      ...women in CS declined from max of 35% in 1980 to more like 20% today, and posited explanation in the article.

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    8. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @slatestarcodex @adrienneleigh

      I agree that there's a risk of just-so stories, but I think things like "radiology is less baby-oriented than obstetrics" are sound

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    9. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @slatestarcodex

      Sure. But "tech is about things, not people"? Also, in re systems thinking, do you think NURSES don't do a TON of systems thinking?

      2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
    10. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @adrienneleigh

      I think "systematizing" is different from "systems thinking". And I'm not sure what you're arguing, given that male preference for (cont)

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      Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 7 Aug 2017
      Replying to @slatestarcodex @adrienneleigh

      systematizing is a brute fact (ie observed in many studies). I feel like the only arguable point is whether it causes the job diffs.

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        1. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @slatestarcodex

          What i'm ARGUING is, the way we frame professions matters. And that people define "systematizing" conveniently to exclude women's work.

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        2. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @slatestarcodex @adrienneleigh

          Nurses have lots of great talents, including systematizing ones, but I think it's a people/empathizing profession in a way that tech isn't.

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        3. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @slatestarcodex @adrienneleigh

          I agree this is hard to predict - ie it confuses me that women are well-represented in undergrad math but not undergrad CS.

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        4. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @slatestarcodex @adrienneleigh

          I don't think a stereotypes story or a thing/people story can explain that one.

          2 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        5. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @slatestarcodex

          No. Somewhat less cultural opprobrium and somewhat less horrible harassment explains SOME of that. All? Who knows. But a LOT.

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        6. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @adrienneleigh @slatestarcodex

          Here's some postmodernism: CHOOSING to focus on the biological factors rather than the (also well-documented) cultural sexism ISN'T NEUTRAL.

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        7. 𝖆𝖉𝖗𝖎𝖊𝖓𝖓𝖊‏ @adrienneleigh 7 Aug 2017
          Replying to @adrienneleigh @slatestarcodex

          I would be perfectly happy for us to examine the bio preferences of various genders once we're SURE we've removed all the cultural factors!

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        8. Bonzalez‏ @ToddDoug 8 Aug 2017
          Replying to @adrienneleigh @slatestarcodex

          Both can be discussed, though. You could argue that it's impossible to know how much is cultural until you

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        9. Bonzalez‏ @ToddDoug 8 Aug 2017
          Replying to @ToddDoug @adrienneleigh @slatestarcodex

          know what your baseline should be. Either way, the idea that it can't even be discussed is kinda nuts.

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