None of this is credible without an argument about what will replace the profit motive. Altruism doesn't count because it obv doesn't work.
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What happens to the people who hold stock in companies that fail? Do they stop participating in collective ownership, or get new stock?
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Are you asking me? I am not a socialist and am confused what people mean by it.
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Oh, sorry, I guess we are on the same page.
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Sorry, that's embarrassing, I thought *you* were trying to explain socialism to *me*.
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LOL, some kind of metaphor lurking here but I can't put my finger on it . . .
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how would there be profit without value?
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