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I have a place where I say complicated things about philosophy and science. That place is my blog. This is where I make terrible puns.

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    Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 18

    Scott Alexander Retweeted Matt

    No. They can publish as many bad articles as they want, & I lose reputation each time I try to review them. Effective Gish Gallop strategyhttps://twitter.com/Mjreard/status/865226628527468544 …

    Scott Alexander added,

    Matt @Mjreard
    I read "what Murray says is true; what he means isn't." A @slatestarcodex review would be very helpful! (please?) https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/5/18/15655638/charles-murray-race-iq-sam-harris-science-free-speech?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter …
    1:49 PM - 18 May 2017
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      2. Wenjie‏ @ye_wenjie3 May 19
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        and may i remind u that ur recommend DeBoer's @theAnova blog? this is absolutely false https://fredrikdeboer.com/2017/05/13/no-really-race-is-a-social-construct/ … its embarrassingly bad

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      3. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 19
        Replying to @ye_wenjie3 @Theanova

        Agreed, and I've told deBoer the same. But I don't demand someone be right where everyone else is wrong before generally liking them.

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      4. Wenjie‏ @ye_wenjie3 May 19
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @Theanova

        its a disservice to readers like me that look to u for solid recommends in the information deluge just recommend Haier to NEone that asks 🤓

        2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 19
        Replying to @ye_wenjie3 @Theanova

        Who's Haier?

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 19
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @ye_wenjie3 @Theanova

        Also, consider broader implication of supporting principle "never trust any work by person who disagrees with you about race/IQ".

        1 reply 0 retweets 2 likes
      7. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 19
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @ye_wenjie3 @Theanova

        This is basically the equivalent of no-platforming Charles Murray and ignoring his working on eg rural white working class.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      8. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 19
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @ye_wenjie3 @Theanova

        I think it's important to protect ability to recommend someone you disagree with about other things

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      9. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 19
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @ye_wenjie3 @Theanova

        And I think this issue is especially important if you have unpopular ideas and expect to mostly be on the receiving end of shunning.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
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      2. Matthew Yglesias‏Verified account @mattyglesias May 18
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        What does that mean?

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      3. John Brothers‏ @johndbro1 May 18
        Replying to @mattyglesias @slatestarcodex

        http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop … Which is definitely Vox's strategy

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      4. Matthew Yglesias‏Verified account @mattyglesias May 18
        Replying to @johndbro1 @slatestarcodex

        Ah gotcha. Have we published a lot of pieces about Charles Murray? I think that was the only one.

        4 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 18
        Replying to @mattyglesias @johndbro1

        Scott Alexander Retweeted

        There's also the one Garrett wrote about at https://twitter.com/garettjones/status/846923004881731584 …

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      6. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 18
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @mattyglesias @johndbro1

        Plus various less focused ones, tweets, and stuff by other sources.

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      7. Matthew Yglesias‏Verified account @mattyglesias May 18
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @johndbro1

        I, personally, have definitely tweeted quite a few times that I find it bizarre that Charles Murray is considered a reputable figure.

        3 replies 0 retweets 5 likes
      8. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 18
        Replying to @mattyglesias @johndbro1

        Your own institution's article basically admits he was right about four out of five things, although it does its best to downplay it.

        4 replies 1 retweet 31 likes
      9. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 18
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @mattyglesias @johndbro1

        On fifth thing, I agree Vox found ppl who disagree with him, but he represents majority scientific position. See eghttps://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4804158/ …

        6 replies 0 retweets 19 likes
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      2. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim May 18
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        A simple new response? Cite @Noahpinion's rule, now widely heard of, and advise people to assume Vox is useless.https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/calling-literatures-from-the-vasty-deep/ …

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      3. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 18
        Replying to @davidmanheim @Noahpinion

        How does this relate to Noah's rule?

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      4. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim May 18
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @Noahpinion

        I think you can cite an analogue of Noah's point: if you've investigated and dismissed 2 representative articles, assume it's all garbage.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 18
        Replying to @davidmanheim @Noahpinion

        But many excellent articles making IQ-partly-nonhereditary point. Neither obvious Murray's right, nor does Murray say 100% is genetic.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      6. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 18
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @davidmanheim @Noahpinion

        If someone gave me the two best articles arguing for nonhereditary IQ differences, I would expect them to be excellent.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      7. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim May 18
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @Noahpinion

        That's not the hypothesis being discussed, though. To refute the claim of a hereditary IQ differences, you'd need to, well, refute it.

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      8. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex May 18
        Replying to @davidmanheim @Noahpinion

        I mean, you can never prove a negative. I think "IQ differences are often nonhereditary, here's some reasons these might be" is enough.

        1 reply 0 retweets 4 likes
      9. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim May 18
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @Noahpinion

        You should know this! Bayesian evidence against the hypothesis is easy - if the hypothesis is specified clearly. Hereditary>0 isn't a claim

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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