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I have a place where I say complicated things about philosophy and science. That place is my blog. This is where I make terrible puns.

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    Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 18 May 2017

    Scott Alexander Retweeted Matt

    No. They can publish as many bad articles as they want, & I lose reputation each time I try to review them. Effective Gish Gallop strategyhttps://twitter.com/Mjreard/status/865226628527468544 …

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    Matt @Mjreard
    I read "what Murray says is true; what he means isn't." A @slatestarcodex review would be very helpful! (please?) https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/5/18/15655638/charles-murray-race-iq-sam-harris-science-free-speech?utm_campaign=vox&utm_content=entry&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter …
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      2. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        A simple new response? Cite @Noahpinion's rule, now widely heard of, and advise people to assume Vox is useless.https://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/calling-literatures-from-the-vasty-deep/ …

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      3. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 18 May 2017
        Replying to @davidmanheim @Noahpinion

        How does this relate to Noah's rule?

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      4. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @Noahpinion

        I think you can cite an analogue of Noah's point: if you've investigated and dismissed 2 representative articles, assume it's all garbage.

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      5. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 18 May 2017
        Replying to @davidmanheim @Noahpinion

        But many excellent articles making IQ-partly-nonhereditary point. Neither obvious Murray's right, nor does Murray say 100% is genetic.

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      6. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @davidmanheim @Noahpinion

        If someone gave me the two best articles arguing for nonhereditary IQ differences, I would expect them to be excellent.

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      7. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @Noahpinion

        That's not the hypothesis being discussed, though. To refute the claim of a hereditary IQ differences, you'd need to, well, refute it.

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      8. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 18 May 2017
        Replying to @davidmanheim @Noahpinion

        I mean, you can never prove a negative. I think "IQ differences are often nonhereditary, here's some reasons these might be" is enough.

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      9. David Manheim‏ @davidmanheim 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex @Noahpinion

        You should know this! Bayesian evidence against the hypothesis is easy - if the hypothesis is specified clearly. Hereditary>0 isn't a claim

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      1. Jonatan Pallesen‏ @jonatanpallesen 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        Straight falsehood in the article about what Sam Harris said in the podcast: (Quote from the article, and actual quote from the podcast.)pic.twitter.com/PgvYLzmlAX

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      1. Kevin Simler‏ @KevinSimler 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        I'm surprised you lose reputation... how do you reckon?

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      1. Jacob Falkovich‏ @yashkaf 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        And anyone whose mind could by changed by SSC can read the Vox piece and arrive at the same conclusion. All the evidence is right there.

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      2. Shortseller Enrichment Commission‏ @NegDiscountRt 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        As I see it, their most important point seems to be decreasing inter racial differences. But this also needs discussing.

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      3. Shortseller Enrichment Commission‏ @NegDiscountRt 18 May 2017
        Replying to @NegDiscountRt @slatestarcodex

        Forget race - any genes-based argument for almost anything (forget IQ) faces huge hurdles/censorship - a bad climate for academic debate.

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      1. Karmakin‏ @Karmakin 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        I feel like people argue against this like if Murray is right then racism is justified, and I don't get that at all.

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      1. ScYx17‏ @ScYxLoL 26 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        I find all your articles extremely interesting. Some of the best material I've ever seen.

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      1. Ben Hoffman‏ @ben_r_hoffman 19 May 2017
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        I find it helpful simply to know your opinion here.

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      1. Matt‏ @Mjreard 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        Sorry. Was thinking more about recent hbd ban than your history with Vox. Honestly lost on where all parties stand on this. I was desperate.

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      1. Michael Huber‏ @nerdsnipe 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        Horrifying assumption in the piece is that if Murray is true, government ought to do something with the information.

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      2. Free-quent Flyer‏ @FreequentFlyr 18 May 2017
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        Unless you think that race is genetically determined you cannot reach Murray's conclusions about IQ and race.

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      3. Free-quent Flyer‏ @FreequentFlyr 18 May 2017
        Replying to @FreequentFlyr @slatestarcodex

        You can reach other conclusions about IQ and race, but not Murray's, since Murray's require believing in race as a genetic construct.

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