Evidence and argumentation are fine, but arguing *over* evidence and argumentation is a distraction.
I see refining argument techniques as a necessary prerequisite to talking about real beliefs effectively, not a substitute.
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Most people involved in overcoming-bias-twitter got there because they had weird ideas they wanted to argue and no one (cont)
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(cont) would listen because "eh, you can prove anything with arguments". If we want to support our ideas we need better.
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