Effectiveness? I think @slatestarcodex was usually explaining, not trying to convince you of something.
I'm not sure how you can see that and say it's a waste of time to argue about what is or isn't evidence.
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If you don't know how to use evidence correctly, it's pointless arguing about object-level stuff.
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It's the equivalent of "the sky is blue, therefore we should have a UBI". If your arguments are wrong, what's the point?
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My background is in debate, my takeaway from which is if you don't have values you can find evidence and arguments for anything.
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That's why I find attacking someone's evidence instead of clearly stating your own position is a deadening rhetorical stance.
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