A respectful, persuasive case for respectful debate and persuasion, by @slatestarcodexhttp://slatestarcodex.com/2017/03/24/guided-by-the-beauty-of-our-weapons/ …
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Replying to @interfluidity @slatestarcodex
In fairness his "niceness until coordinated not-niceness" stance makes this somewhat non credible
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Replying to @xctlot @interfluidity
Coordinated not-niceness stance is just "you can put people in jail once you have govt and laws".
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Replying to @slatestarcodex @interfluidity
right, which makes "respectful dialogue" oriented towards building such a consensus somewhat instrumental
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IOW, a rhetorical tactic of conciliatoriness with underlying bad faith should not be indulged
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IOW, a "respectful dialogue" with people seen as simultaneously trying to screw you is unlikely productive
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Replying to @xctlot
Say someone wants to ban a drug I use. Is there better solution than them arguing in favor, and me arguing against? If so, what?
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Replying to @slatestarcodex
routing around discussion to reach your favored result, of course.
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Replying to @xctlot @slatestarcodex
do you contend eg a conciliatory discussion with people paid to advocate a position is empirically effective?
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Replying to @xctlot @slatestarcodex
which has been more effective in eg marijuana normalization: abstract good-faith argumentation, or widespread availability?
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I'm not sure. Has availability changed since the 1970s? Success of normalization certainly has.
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