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I have a place where I say complicated things about philosophy and science. That place is my blog. This is where I make terrible puns.

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    Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 14 Jun 2015

    Righty blogs this week: "This Rachel Dolezal thing just proves our point!" "What point? That all black people are secretly white?" "Um.."

    11:36 AM - 14 Jun 2015
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      2.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        @slatestarcodex the real point is that even liberals don't think race is "just a social construct" even though they say things like that

        2 replies 1 retweet 1 like
      3. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @HbdNrx

        @HbdNrx It can be a social construct but non-arbitrary. "Being the President" is social/non-genetic, but Obama has a stronger claim than I.

        2 replies 0 retweets 3 likes
      4.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        @slatestarcodex nobody says "being the president is just a social construct" as a way to imply that the presidency doesn't exist, though

        1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
      5. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @HbdNrx

        @HbdNrx Something can exist as a social construct and matter a lot socially (as liberals admit race does).

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      6.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        @slatestarcodex actual prog position when they say that is really that there are no non-superficial biological differences between races

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      7. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @HbdNrx

        @HbdNrx Prog position is black identity comes from being raised black and treated as black for whole life. You can't just dye your hair.

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      2.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        @slatestarcodex the other point is that black privilege is real (due to affirmative action and black institutions), while white priv. isn't

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      3. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @HbdNrx

        @HbdNrx Sure glad "we can be inconsistent in our own favor if we believe the other side has real privilege" can never misfire spectacularly!

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      4.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        @slatestarcodex some things more objective than others.Affirmative action is a well known, real policy.The white priv stuff is all handwavng

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      5. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @HbdNrx

        @HbdNrx I am arguing that race really exists, even as a social construct, even apart from its biological meaning.

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      2. Sviga Lae‏ @svigalae 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        @slatestarcodex the cognitive dissonance is that those privileges (eg MM's protected classes) are not supposed to exist.

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      3. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @svigalae

        @svigalae I think everyone agrees affirmative action exists / is a nice thing to have. Debate over whether it balances other disadvantages.

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      4.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        @slatestarcodex @svigalae Progs resort to the vague and misleading concept of privilege to "prove" those disadvantages exist.

        2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
      5. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @HbdNrx

        @HbdNrx @svigalaehttp://slatestarcodex.com/2013/04/20/social-justice-for-the-highly-demanding-of-rigor/ …

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      6.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        .@slatestarcodex @svigalae Even if we can rely on the implicit association results and assume that these are caused by real bias,

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      7.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @HbdNrx

        .@slatestarcodex @svigalae the big picture is that IQ explains the outcome differences far better than bias.

        1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
      8.  🐸 hbd nrx  🐸‏ @HbdNrx 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @HbdNrx

        .@slatestarcodex @svigalae in fact, it looks like blacks make more money than you would expect based on IQ. http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/robinhood.htm 

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      2. Sviga Lae‏ @svigalae 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        @slatestarcodex the correct analogy isn't Jenner, it's that transgender MMA fighter. give a white woman those privileges, it's an insta-win.

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      3. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @svigalae

        @svigalae Yes, I expect that even supporters of trans rights will back away from saying they should be able to participate in female sports.

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      2. I Could Be Wrong‏ @dansblog1 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        @slatestarcodex The point that tribal/coalition politics, not principle, is driving attitudes towards transgender

        1 reply 0 retweets 3 likes
      3. Scott Alexander‏ @slatestarcodex 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @dansblog1

        @dansblog1 Howso? Political case should be symmetrical re: women and blacks, but leftist response is asymmetrical. Why is this advantageous?

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      4. I Could Be Wrong‏ @dansblog1 14 Jun 2015
        Replying to @slatestarcodex

        @slatestarcodex Demanding acceptance of 1) transgender hurts traditionalists 2) transracial hurts blacks Tribes' positions follow

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