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Situational metacommentarian, dilettante postpostmodernist, Jaynesian idealist, futon psychoanalyst.

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    simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

    underappreciated fact: your ideaspace is bounded more by experience than by intelligence

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      2. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        continuing with ideaspace metaphor: experience broadens your base, while intelligence helps you ascend (to meta)

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      3. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        meta-knowledge is useful predictively but is also fallible. otoh nobody can tell you your experience was in-itself invalid, only the conclusions you draw.

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      4. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        the more meta you go, the less emotional weight your knowledge carries. this has led to both miraculous success and extreme tragedy.

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      5. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        because it lacks emotional weight, "going meta" can be a psychological defense mechanism. you can ignore a depressing experience by justifying it through a conceptual framework.

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      6. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        simpolism Retweeted simpolism

        thanks to mass media, we witness more suffering than ever. as a result, ideologies have become more abstract and more totalizing. they perform for us more emotional labor.https://mobile.twitter.com/simpolism/status/1024375297200795649 …

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        simpolism @simpolism
        If winners under capitalism are random, then they are not easily culpable as scapegoats (even rationalizations must be rational to a degree). The result is losers scapegoat the system itself. And capitalism-the-system does not care whether you hate it.
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      7. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        although meta-knowledge dulls out emotional responses, no ideology can absorb them. our collective witness of suffering manifests as pervasive low-grade anxiety and depression.

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      8. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        many have an expectation that a scapegoat will work, that we can absolve our emotions by hurting the target. but the scapegoat will not work unless blood is spilled. and online, suffering has no witness (except performatively, which doesn't count).

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      9. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        it is commonly recognized that those who shout the loudest online are also the most unwell. why do they? because they have the strongest desire for absolution.

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      10. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        Religious practice is informed by scapegoats. Their power lingers: fast on Yom Kippur, feel yourself become renewed. But real suffering (such as through collective fasting) must be experienced for these rituals to work. A call for suffering is not enough.

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      11. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        The emotional tenor of websites is determined by their interfaces, e.g. Facebook limiting "react" emojis to limit expressive range.

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      12. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        Most websites implicitly "ban" suffering. What would a website that allows it look like?

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      13. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        simpolism Retweeted Lesbosskiy

        Yes, like Discord. Suffering is something people will only express in the context of persistent relationships. This requires spaces that encourage persistence, which can also only be done by building walls. Discord gives you tools to build walls.https://twitter.com/lesbosskiy/status/1039678347817574400?s=19 …

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        Lesbosskiy @lesbosskiy
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        Discord. Exactly like Discord.
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      14. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        Certain "raids" conducted by 4chan and tumblr are remembered partly because they were effective. Raiders went into "othered" spaces with persistent membership and turned them into scapegoats.

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      15. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        Funny idea: spaces where you can fuck up the participants to make yourself feel better, but they're all AI so nobody actually gets hurt. Oh wait, those are called "video games".

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      16. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        Some interesting data on "producing hate material online". Note the inverse correlation with playing first-person shooters. 🤔 (methodology warning: study simply asked participants if they'd done hate speech, might mean underreporting for naive cases) https://doi.org/10.1089/vio.2017.0048 …pic.twitter.com/ydl269ylSn

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      17. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        simpolism Retweeted simpolism

        How might we combat online hate speech? Require pauses before replies in heated threads. Give people better emotional outlets and encourage their use (state sponsored gaming rigs when?). Let people build themselves better walls in social media spaces.https://mobile.twitter.com/simpolism/status/1039309075761311744 …

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        simpolism @simpolism
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        What if echo chambers are good? Does forcing every person to confront contrary opinions produce good results? My experience is that, with ideologies, you can lead a horse to water, and he'll either drink, or kick you in the face and piss in the well.
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      18. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        simpolism Retweeted simpolism

        Intelligent people: if you want to do good, expand your ideaspace (through experience!) and tend your walled garden by creating good truths.https://mobile.twitter.com/simpolism/status/1039313164662452224 …

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        simpolism @simpolism
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        2/To avoid "us and them", the echo chambers must be porous and well-tended. The adventurous must explore and share their good viewpoints with those who feel threatened. Through sermons, for example.
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      19. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        We are not post-truth. We've merely lost our institutions of truth, and must instead rely on our social spheres. To lead by honest truth-creation is an act of goodness.

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      20. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018

        simpolism Retweeted '*•:Ḟreyjạ:•*'

        Great follow counts require great responsibility. You control what is true for your followers. Your philosophy becomes reality. Don't fuck it up.https://mobile.twitter.com/autotrnslucence/status/1039288121802641410 …

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        '*•:Ḟreyjạ:•*' @utotranslucence
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        I think I've conflated meaning and power here. A better way to describe this is that as rule-based hierarchies break down, charismatic hierarchies are more important. What holds attention becomes more influential, and what holds the most attention becomes the most legitimate.
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      2. pink pig‏ @muditaya 11 Sep 2018
        Replying to @simpolism

        there’s a lot to be said about those whose ideaspace is mainstream/dominating vs those on the fringes - for example, you talk of mass media/collective anxiety rising without specifying WESTERN media (this assumption isn’t true elsewhere)

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      3. pink pig‏ @muditaya 11 Sep 2018
        Replying to @muditaya @simpolism

        those living in dominating ideaspaces have the handicap of not being forced to go beyond their own space, whereas the rest of us have always had to navigate 2 or more spaces with expanded ideaspaces, but our ideas aren’t so readily acknowledged

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      4. simpolism‏ @simpolism 11 Sep 2018
        Replying to @muditaya

        this is true: people cannot understand ideas that rely on experiences they have not had. people disagree on what to do about this, though.

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      5. pink pig‏ @muditaya 12 Sep 2018
        Replying to @simpolism

        actually - i’m saying those whose experiences are outside of the dominant narrative have the advantage of understanding ideas based on their own experiences + ideas belonging to those living the dominant narrative despite never having lived through those experiences

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      6. pink pig‏ @muditaya 12 Sep 2018
        Replying to @muditaya @simpolism

        i’m talking here about poc understanding their ideas based on their experience on top of having to understand white ppl’s ideas due to having had to imagine that experience to survive/communicate

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      7. simpolism‏ @simpolism 12 Sep 2018
        Replying to @muditaya

        yes, I understood your point

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      8. simpolism‏ @simpolism 12 Sep 2018
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        I was referring to the communication problem that occurs when you produce an idea based on X experience and attempt to share it with someone who hasn't had X experience. I believe Fricker calls this problem "hermeneutical injustice", and it's interesting to me.

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      9. pink pig‏ @muditaya 12 Sep 2018
        Replying to @simpolism

        hermeneutical injustice goes one way (those whose worldview is sidelined), what’s the term to describe how the dominant (white, male, wealthy) are predisposed to thinking they’re capable of understanding the other - or even, that they already understand when they really haven’t

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