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John Sonmez
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    1. Scott Hanselman‏Verified account @shanselman 6 May 2013
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      @jsonmez IMHO, JavaScript is hardly doomed. And that title is "link bait."

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    2. John Sonmez‏ @simpleprogrammr 6 May 2013
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      @shanselman I do honestly think it is doomed though. This barrage of frameworks can't last. The tech has to stand on its own at some point.

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    3. Chris Heilmann‏ @codepo8 6 May 2013
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      @jsonmez @shanselman Main point is that we lost a few years trying to make JS what it is not with abstraction libraries. It does the job.

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    4. John Sonmez‏ @simpleprogrammr 6 May 2013
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      @codepo8 @shanselman It is possible to create a SPA without JS libraries? (A non trivial one?)

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    5. Chris Heilmann‏ @codepo8 6 May 2013
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      @jsonmez @shanselman of course. You hire some people who can do massages, get some nice music and a pool... What are you talking about?

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    6. John Sonmez‏ @simpleprogrammr 6 May 2013
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      @codepo8 @shanselman I mean managing the complexity.. Template engines, data access, etc. that libs like Knockout, Angular or Breeze provide

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    7. Chris Heilmann‏ @codepo8 6 May 2013
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      @jsonmez personally I think the complexity of those is because we replace HTTP, the browser and write our app when we do that. not needed.

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      John Sonmez‏ @simpleprogrammr 6 May 2013
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      @codepo8 That is an excellent point. It is essentially a thick client app hosted in a thin client.

      6:07 PM - 6 May 2013
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        1. Chris Heilmann‏ @codepo8 6 May 2013
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          @jsonmez which is why Flex, JSF, even Swing failed before that. It is time we build with the web and its software and not replace it.

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        2. John Sonmez‏ @simpleprogrammr 6 May 2013
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          @codepo8 You may yet convert me to your way of thinking. What you say is very true.

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