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    1. Goat Mittens‏ @john_codeinaire Nov 7
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      Asking them to have a convo is one of the issues the others are completely ignoring the victim's experience and then supporting the abuser.

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    2. 0x627832‏ @2xb Nov 7
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      based on the level of civility of the mentioned thread, both sides could report being a victim. It simply spun out of control causing complete chaos. At the end, nobody knew exactly what was the premise of this entire conflict.

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    3. Ted Neward‏ @tedneward Nov 7
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      Anybody who didn’t know, didn’t want to know. The information is out there for anybody to find.

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    4. 0x627832‏ @2xb Nov 7
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      Replying to @tedneward @john_codeinaire and

      that is a fair assessment, but is it how humans work in general? If that would be the case we wouldn't have the US govt fighting against fake facts/news published on social media skewing public opinions etc. All the facts are always there, right, and so far it didn't help.

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    5. 0x627832‏ @2xb Nov 7
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      my point is -- assuming malicious intent of someone who asks both sides to sit down and talk is wrong. A good intention turned into a mess and this happens. Is this a reason to ban from conferences? I do not think so.

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    6. Goat Mittens‏ @john_codeinaire Nov 7
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      I don't believe anyone was assuming malicious intent. Not that I can tell. It's the assumption that someone who was abused wants to sit down with their abuser to have a "civil convo". For HIM it's good in intentioned but if he just stop and thought for a moment he'd see it's...

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    7. Goat Mittens‏ @john_codeinaire Nov 7
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      Completely inappropriate and inconsiderate. No mediation was required. The abuser needs to stop being an abuser and take immediate steps to remedy the situation. Then he, Charles, continues to support the abuser. Now, I can see how peeps may believe malicious intent from that.

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    8. 0x627832‏ @2xb Nov 7
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      Replying to @john_codeinaire @tedneward and

      Apologies, but I will ignore the "abuser" part. Now, for the sake of the argument, let's say it was inappropriate and inconsiderate. Should this be the reason to ban someone from any conference? I never heard of anyone being punished for being inappropriate or inconsiderate.

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    9. 0x627832‏ @2xb Nov 7
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      Replying to @2xb @john_codeinaire and

      I do not recall @linuxfoundation banning Linus Torvalds for insulting people, being insensitive, inappropriate or inconsiderate. He, like everyone else in the US, enjoyed the 1st amendment and rightfully so.

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    10. Ted Neward‏ @tedneward Nov 7
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      He should have been. First Amendment argument is a red herring. It means the government cannot jail me for calling you an asshole; it does not protect me from your angry response and Twitter block that follows.

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      John Sonmez‏ @simpleprogrammr Nov 7
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      This is the cop out answer for free speech. You actually don't have free speech today unless you are financially independent. This is not how things should be. A large amount of voices a marginalized because of social repercussions.

      3:50 PM - 7 Nov 2019
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        1. Goat Mittens‏ @john_codeinaire 5h5 hours ago
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          Well, yeah. Marginalised groups have been saying this for ages and have been suffering from it. Freedom of speech doesn't equate to freedom from social consequences.

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