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    1. John Sonmez‏ @simpleprogrammr Nov 5
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      Honestly, point it out to me. Show me some documentation where it is explicitly in the policy of a major American institution to be racist. I would like to see it if it exists and I will be right there with you fighting it.

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    2. Marques J‏ @Marques_L_J Nov 5
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      Institutional does not mean explicitly written. It means that it is embedded into the institution of this country. How many non white men has been president since the country was stolen and fought over? That, my friend, is the "institution" of which we speak... How long since

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    3. John Sonmez‏ @simpleprogrammr Nov 5
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      The problem with that theory is that there is no way to prove racism or for me to disprove it unless we use what is explicit. If I were accused to being a thief, you'd need proof. If you accused my organization of institutional thievery, you'd need to show that it was codified.

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    4. Marques J‏ @Marques_L_J Nov 5
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      I can code and program as well as many of my fellow students, but I am often the only black male in the classes that we have, and coincidentally, or not, I am also the one most often over looked or whose ideas are tossed out without thought until everything else had been tried.

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    5. John Sonmez‏ @simpleprogrammr Nov 5
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      That’s unfortunate, but it also does not prove racism is the cause.

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    6. Marques J‏ @Marques_L_J Nov 5
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      Truth, that's why I said it's hard to prove, unless you have lived with it and understand the subtleties... Like learning a foreign language vs growing up with it.

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    7. John Sonmez‏ @simpleprogrammr Nov 5
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      I’ve encountered direct racism where there was no question of it. I’ve been beaten up and called racial slurs. I don’t have to guess.

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    8. Marques J‏ @Marques_L_J Nov 5
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      I mean, yeah, there is still that, but even that isn't as bad as the, kind where it's the double meanings, the you work here because we had to hire the token non white person, the looks like I'm gonna harm them just because I'm a black man, and we all see how the news portrays us

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      Unfortunately there is a active force today to promote division and racism in the news and popular media. Instead of finding common ground more and more people are being driven apart.

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    10. Marques J‏ @Marques_L_J Nov 5
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      This is also true. I just think it would be less division, if everyone could admit its still there under the surface, then focus on how to truly get rid of it. Sweeping it under the rug and pretending it doesn't exist hasn't worked and will never work. We are all equally human.

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      The problem I have is that even though there is some racism, a lot of people who aren't racist at all get painted with that brush. I would rather look for the good in people and assume the best until proven otherwise rather than the other way around.

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        2. Marques J‏ @Marques_L_J Nov 5
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          centuries long war, and frankly we're tired of passing it down to our offspring like some curse or fucked up legacy.

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          I get your frustration, but that's exactly the kind of thinking that creates division. No one is actively promoting racism or sexism in tech. But a lot of people are accused of it, because of the idea that if you are not with us you are against us. And the tactics being used to

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        1. Marques J‏ @Marques_L_J Nov 5
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          I get that some people get painted with that brush, and being that I've been on the other side of that broad brush so often, I try NOT to, however, we're at the point where, with tech, the same as it was with other industries, if you're not clearly in our camp fighting it, you're

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          In the other promoting it. It sucks when innocent "civilians" get caught up in it, but things are just that serious now. Not just with the race thing, but also with the "women don't belong in tech" or any position of power. It has to end sooner rather than later because it's a

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