"Hands your identity to Google?" Citation needed.
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Replying to @signalapp @whispersystems
Requiring GCM means you are forcing users to give potential PII to Google, which is a heavy-handed way of violating privacy.
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Replying to @bkero
What PII? The messages are empty. People would probably take this crowd more seriously if it didn't grossly exaggerate everything.
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Replying to @signalapp @whispersystems
Doesn't matter that messages are empty. Metadata. Leaks time, app ID, receiver device IDs, and is PII with associated G data
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Replying to @bkero
Can you see how "Google knows when a background app receives a wakeup" is very different from "Signal hands your identity to Google?"
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Replying to @signalapp @whispersystems
and the combo of 1) refusing 3rd party client support, and 2) not providing a G-free APK leaves many out in the cold
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Replying to @bkero
We don't feel we can support clients out of our control, but we'd love it if you proved us wrong. Let us know if we can help w/ setup
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Replying to @signalapp @whispersystems
I don't think anyone would expect you to actively support alternate clients, but letting them on the network is a good start
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Replying to @bkero
Having them on the network is supporting them. If our users are communicating with them, then when they break our users are effected.
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Replying to @signalapp @whispersystems
the "alternate clients could break our users" argument is a staple for making walled gardens. I thought you were above that
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Would love to be able to make it work, but our experience has proved otherwise. Please prove us wrong, let us know if we can help.
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