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very ok person. liberal. egalitarian. extremely online. screams about feminism & womens media. @armouredskeptic s #1 fangirl.

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    1. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact Feb 9

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      Women do not just wear make-up to signal sexual availability, There are societal pressures and expectations as well. Some people also just like the wear it makes them look. Part of the problem here is assuming intent. Everyone decides if the actions of others are desired or not. https://twitter.com/CovfefeAnon/status/961886414999875584 …

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    2. shoe‏ @shoe0nhead Feb 9
      Replying to @datnofact

      i was completely uninterested in relationships when i started wearing my stupid eyeliner the fuck i was like 14 makeup is just neat

      9 replies 3 retweets 170 likes
    3. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact Feb 9
      Replying to @shoe0nhead

      Yeah and now there's a wave of people parroting Peterson's recent talking point as if it's the only reason women would wear makeup and it's pissing me off now.

      4 replies 1 retweet 50 likes
    4. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact Feb 9
      Replying to @datnofact @shoe0nhead

      Like there are entire makeup channels just dedicated to the fun of makeup and trying out different looks and suchlike. If people can't comprehend there are other reasons people wear makeup, I think this is very much part of the problem.

      2 replies 1 retweet 42 likes
      shoe‏ @shoe0nhead Feb 9
      Replying to @datnofact

      i know. many women just like makeup because it makes them feel more confident or some even see it as an artform or an expression. why is jordan being a fucking incel.

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        2. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact Feb 9
          Replying to @shoe0nhead

          I don't think he does it on purpose. I think he just gets so wrapped up in psychology that he'll pick up on a single datapoint which I'm sure there is some evidence for, and make it into a big issue. I don't think he realises how it comes across when he does that.

          3 replies 2 retweets 36 likes
        3. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact Feb 9
          Replying to @datnofact @shoe0nhead

          It's not so much what he says, but what he doesn't say as well. Could you imagine having a conversation about sexual harassment in the workplace, and someone saying "but red lipstick tho" What???

          2 replies 0 retweets 30 likes
        4. shoe‏ @shoe0nhead Feb 9
          Replying to @datnofact

          yeah thats beyond retarded. thats like saying a man's groomed face or nice shoes was him signaling sexual avalibilty. not just looking professional. & the concept of looking good = feeling good is lost on basement dwellers.

          6 replies 2 retweets 75 likes
        5. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact Feb 9
          Replying to @shoe0nhead

          Yeah, I think Peterson needs to understand that he's not speaking to other psychologists and that he needs to put these things into better context, because the message he's sending may not be the one he intends to send.

          1 reply 2 retweets 36 likes
        6. Red Dragon Inn‏ @RedDragonInn13 Feb 9
          Replying to @datnofact @shoe0nhead

          From an evolutionary standpoint he has a point, it is all about signalling your desirability to potential mates. However, humans evolved logic and reasoning that allows them to overcome their base animal instincts. We can find grooming aesthetically pleasing and just like it.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Ricky Berwick 2nd biggest fan‏ @6uitarl3gend Feb 9
          Replying to @RedDragonInn13 @datnofact @shoe0nhead

          He’s not talking on individual bases like all the individual examples from all the individuals who are outraged. The majority is not the individual.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact Feb 9
          Replying to @6uitarl3gend @RedDragonInn13 @shoe0nhead

          Yeah, and it's a perfectly valid criticism to ask how useful it is to speak in such generalities and raise a single data-point in multi-faceted and complex social systems without context. Like I said, he's not speaking to other psychologists.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. Ricky Berwick 2nd biggest fan‏ @6uitarl3gend Feb 9
          Replying to @datnofact @RedDragonInn13 @shoe0nhead

          He’s speaking in accordance to his profession to defend his professional opinion. He’s not speaking to other psychologists when speaking to his students in this manner either.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
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        2. Saloni‏ @salonium Feb 9
          Replying to @shoe0nhead @datnofact

          Not just this, but there are many jobs where women are expected to wear make-up in order to look professional. The idea that they're contradictory is so dumb.

          3 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact Feb 9
          Replying to @salonium @shoe0nhead

          It wouldn't be so bad if Peterson had raises this point, but he's so hyper-focussed on these small data-points as if they're really important that it makes him sound like he's from the 1950s.

          3 replies 0 retweets 2 likes
        4. Sam Anderson‏ @samanderson0326 Feb 9
          Replying to @datnofact @salonium @shoe0nhead

          (3)all people are making the decision to wear makeup to conciously attract mates. He's saying something much more complex. You have to understand the filter through which he speaks. Effective criticism should always come from a place of understanding the argument.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        5. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact Feb 9
          Replying to @samanderson0326 @salonium @shoe0nhead

          No offence, but this is like the 3rd person today who has defended Peterson to me and said something along the lines of "you need to see it this way", or claimed I've misunderstood his argument. No, I got his argument. I'm criticising the way he expressed it.

          2 replies 0 retweets 0 likes
        6. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact Feb 9
          Replying to @datnofact @samanderson0326 and

          If I have to make a considerable effort to understand his lens, then does that not suggest he has not effectively communicated his point? Some people wear make-up to attract mates. Valid point? Yes. In response to sexual harassment in the workplace? Not so much.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. Sam Anderson‏ @samanderson0326 Feb 9
          Replying to @datnofact @salonium @shoe0nhead

          Sure, that's an understandable criticism. I've just seen people in your thread (and possibly you, to a degree) imply that he is stating something factually incorrect. That may be a misunderstanding of you in my part. However, it's important to point out that he's correct.

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        8. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact Feb 9
          Replying to @samanderson0326 @salonium @shoe0nhead

          Sure, but even if something is factual, if you present it in a way that overstates it or makes it appear to be a bigger factor than it is, then it makes it a lot easier for other people to fill in the blanks. My criticism was mostly of how he said it and the responses to that.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. DatNoFact  ↗‏ @datnofact Feb 9
          Replying to @datnofact @samanderson0326 and

          Peterson, from what I've seen, does base his arguments on research. Can't fault him too much there. How he does it, at least in my opinion, leaves a lot to be desired, because these are complex issues, in an environment where people will fill in a lot of the blanks themselves.

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        1. Nuance Bro‏ @NuanceBro Feb 9
          Replying to @shoe0nhead @datnofact

          But WHYYYY does ot make you feel more confident? Confident in what? In your sexual desirability/attractiveness.... @jordanbpeterson is 100% right. It can be subconscious you know

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        2. smile phrenologist‏ @Dix_Lel Feb 9
          Replying to @shoe0nhead @datnofact

          cause he's a Christian version of the Taliban clerics?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        3. BullshidoandPolitics‏ @BullshidoPol Feb 9
          Replying to @Dix_Lel @shoe0nhead @datnofact

          Do you know what the word "hyperbolic" means?

          1 reply 0 retweets 0 likes
        4. smile phrenologist‏ @Dix_Lel Feb 9
          Replying to @BullshidoPol @shoe0nhead @datnofact

          yes, I know I used it... Here, let me rephrase it in a non-hyperbolic way: Because he's a Christian fundamentalist, with a backwards and traditionalist view of the world, especially on gender and gender relations? Happy?

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        5. BullshidoandPolitics‏ @BullshidoPol Feb 9
          Replying to @Dix_Lel @shoe0nhead @datnofact

          Well I think you're still exaggerating a bit. But hey, that's just like, your opinion man. I'm also not really in the mood to argue, so how about we agree to disagree?

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        6. smile phrenologist‏ @Dix_Lel Feb 9
          Replying to @BullshidoPol @shoe0nhead @datnofact

          HMMM YOU WON'T WASTE YOUR TIME ARGUING WITH STRANGERS OVER THE INTERNET OVER THE BELIEFS OF A CANADIAN PSYCHOLOGY PROFESSOR??? YOU ARE COWARD!!!1!!1!111!!!!11!!! (jk)

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        7. BullshidoandPolitics‏ @BullshidoPol Feb 9
          Replying to @Dix_Lel @shoe0nhead @datnofact

          Hahaha, to be honest I did just have a full two day twitter argument with some cunt about Ben Shapiro being an alt-right intellectually dishonest shitlord. I was just really not in the mood to argue this time.

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        8. smile phrenologist‏ @Dix_Lel Feb 10
          Replying to @BullshidoPol @shoe0nhead @datnofact

          I mean, he's not alt-right. But he is a reactionary intelectually dishonest shitlord. (I'm not in the mood to argue, I'm just stating my opinion that I'm sure you wanted to hear /s 😂😂😂)

          1 reply 0 retweets 1 like
        9. BullshidoandPolitics‏ @BullshidoPol Feb 10
          Replying to @Dix_Lel @shoe0nhead @datnofact

          Well to be fair I was exaggerating for comedic value. I was actually trying to explain that Ben was neither alt-right nor intellectually dishonest. It was more that the whole shitlord thing was the subject. But I can see how one could perceive some hypocrisy in my words there.

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