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He/Him I've done pretty much all biz roles except true HR (did recruiting) & coding. Running biz operations/analysis at a startup; all views are mine/right ;p

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    1. Kelly Sommers‏ @kellabyte 17 Apr 2018
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      IMO DataStax Enterprise 6.x being 2 times faster than OSS Cassandra is an example of OSS gone wrong. Differentiate with enterprise features but don’t hold the perf back of the OSS project. This is really evil OSS in my eyes. I’ve been a big fan of DataStax and their work.

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    2. Patrick McFadin‏ @PatrickMcFadin 17 Apr 2018
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      Kelly, you know the history here. DataStax used to put all new dev into #cassandra until we got pretty viciously shut down by the ASF. We got told clearly. Stability > Features. To conform and be good project citizens we contribute A LOT of stability updates to OSS Cassandra.

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    3. Kelly Sommers‏ @kellabyte 17 Apr 2018
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      I don’t think that’s an excuse here. You could have open sourced the storage engine. I also think half of the bad relationship with ASF is on your shoulders.

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    4. Scott Hirleman‏ @shirleman 17 Apr 2018
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      It's 20/80. The ASF were absolutely terrible. One person who was friends w/ multiple board members complained about the project not picking up his frankly idiotic breaking change request and board decided to go apeshit. Confluent does very similar stuff and are the ASF darlings

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    5. Scott Hirleman‏ @shirleman 17 Apr 2018
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      One of the ASF board members said a very, I don't know, racist? (or ethnocist?) thing about a committer who is Russian and telling him to go back to playing chess. They made it clear they did not want DS involved and a board member threatened to kick all DS people of the project

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    6. Kelly Sommers‏ @kellabyte 17 Apr 2018
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      I’m not convinced the situation couldn’t be improved or repaired or at least better than this. I am also convinced DataStax could be doing decisions better for the community instead of making excuses.

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    7. Scott Hirleman‏ @shirleman 17 Apr 2018
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      DataStax laid down a lot of gasoline on the bridges but once the ASF set them ablaze, it made it pretty difficult to repair that relationship. The board made it pretty clear they cared more about the rules than the community's health. So why put in the effort to repair that?

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    8. Kelly Sommers‏ @kellabyte 17 Apr 2018
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      Because it’s short sighted to think that splintering an OSS community won’t later (maybe many years down the line) won’t bite your business in the ass later.

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    9. Scott Hirleman‏ @shirleman 17 Apr 2018
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      Eh, name me one company that is doing well where their core is an Apache project. Cloudera fell ~50% after reporting earnings, Hortonworks is still eating cash like crazy, etc. Yeah, would be better if they could OS it under a different license but that just fractures it all more

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    10. Kelly Sommers‏ @kellabyte 17 Apr 2018
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      That doesn’t excuse this though. Go find another OSS community then of the ASF isn’t a good one.

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      Scott Hirleman‏ @shirleman 17 Apr 2018
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      But the more fractured nature will piss more people off. They tried that post the Aurelius acquisition with TitanDB. I don't think there is a good answer to be honest. I would like to see The Linux Foundation pick up a lot more of these projects

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