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    1. zeynep tufekci‏Verified account @zeynep 4 May 2020

      Subtweet to media, especially science writers. When WHO says "there is no evidence", they don't mean something is false. There is no evidence either way. It could just as well be true. Also, "correlation doesn't imply causation" is wrong and stupid, and doesn't debunk anything.

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      Shinobi‏ @shinobi42 4 May 2020
      Replying to @zeynep

      I am interested in why you say "correlation does not imply causation" is wrong?

      8:43 AM - 4 May 2020
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        2. Jamie‏ @cemcemmo 4 May 2020
          Replying to @shinobi42 @zeynep

          Causation doesn't materialize out of the blue. Correlation is observed, causation is hypothesized and proven or disproven. The statement is typically leveled as a red herring. I am guessing. Not a mind reader otherwise. Also curious about Zeynep's meaning.

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        3. Jamie‏ @cemcemmo 4 May 2020
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          Jamie Retweeted zeynep tufekci

          Here she is (and I couldn't agree more):https://twitter.com/zeynep/status/1257335380510150656?s=19 …

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          zeynep tufekciVerified account @zeynep
          We've had so many ridiculous rounds, and it is still going on. Sure, there are correlations that are misleading due to confounding, but of course correlation IMPLIES possible causation because they do tend to go together. Correlation hints at causation and says we should check!
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        2. ray found‏ @rayfound 4 May 2020
          Replying to @shinobi42 @zeynep

          Because it does imply causation, particularly if there's a plausible causal mechanism. It's not proof, it's a hint.

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        3. Shinobi‏ @shinobi42 4 May 2020
          Replying to @rayfound @zeynep

          Yeah, i've always preferred Correlation != Causation, rather than using the traditional academicy language. They aren't the same thing, and people forget that, but of course they are related. (Correlation and Causation are correlated and not causal. Statistical tautology?)

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        1. Mary Branscombe‏ @marypcbuk 4 May 2020
          Replying to @shinobi42 @zeynep

          xkcd expresses this one *perfectly* in both the final panel and the rolloverpic.twitter.com/crkOubEofp

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